That's why he's no longer pastor of FBCH. But, the point is why are the Feds involved in what would otherwise be a local\state case.
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Steadfast Fred
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The FBI is involved because it is believed Schaap took the girl over the state line into Illinois for sexual activity while she was still 16, which makes it a federal crime.
I believe FBC Hammond is taking the high road and doing the right thing in this very sad situation.
Steadfast Fred
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They may, or may not be.
The board of deacons should have taken action against Schaap a long time ago, The sexual content in his sermons showed the intents of the heart.
The board of deacons should have taken action against Schaap a long time ago, The sexual content in his sermons showed the intents of the heart.
Steadfast Fred
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Question:
Is it possible the girl was going to use the pictures to blackmail Schaap?
The deacon said the phone had a text come in from the girl and the picture showed up.
Wouldn't this mean the girl sent the pictures to him?
Could it be attempted blackmail or extortion? And just who took the pictures?
Would Schaap have knowingly posed for such pictures knowing if they became public they could ruin him?
Is it possible the girl was going to use the pictures to blackmail Schaap?
The deacon said the phone had a text come in from the girl and the picture showed up.
Wouldn't this mean the girl sent the pictures to him?
Could it be attempted blackmail or extortion? And just who took the pictures?
Would Schaap have knowingly posed for such pictures knowing if they became public they could ruin him?
What action would you have taken if you were a deacon in that church. Is it possible that there may have been "unsubstantiated allegations" ? Suppose there was and the pastor denied them. Then what would you have done?
I am not defending either the former pastor or the deacons - I just want to know all three sides of the issue.
For most(1) of us to try to answer these questions would be pure speculation on our parts. We'll know more for certain when the FBI releases its report and the US Attorney files charges.
(1) I assume that any one who does know is par t of the investigation and is under orders not to leak anything here.
(1) I assume that any one who does know is par t of the investigation and is under orders not to leak anything here.
Steadfast Fred
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Salty, if I were a deacon on that board I would speak out against all the sexual themed sermons ... especially the one from the 2010 youth conference.
And preaching to the congregation that he tells teens he is counseling to 'practice safe sex'?
He shouldn't be telling them to have sex at all. He should be teaching them the fact that sex is for married couples only.
The pastor cannot 'deny' the fact that he preached these things. A whole congregation heard him through the span of 11 years.
Steadfast Fred
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I know it is speculation, but those were just some questions that came to mind.
I can't think of a pastor in the world who would allow himself to be photographed having an extra-marital affair knowing that if the pictures were discovered there would be serious consequences.
That is what aroused my curiosity in this case.
As you may have read on this thread, I'm trying my best to suck the oxygen out of any speculation. Why?? And FBCH is now the site of a "nuclear explosion." There is real fallout involved. We don't need to add to the situation.
From Proclaim and Defend
an official voice of the FBFI:
Voyle Glover Interview
dealing with the situation in Hammond.
an official voice of the FBFI:
Voyle Glover Interview
dealing with the situation in Hammond.
I have no knowledge of this. We heard him preach in 2005 on furlough and then several weeks ago and heard none of this, nor has anyone informed us of this. You have to remember we're in Japan most of the time, out of the mainstream so to speak.
Steadfast Fred
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Understood John.
But it is a known fact that Schaap has preached several messages over the years with explicit content.
Tom Butler
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Voyle Glover mentioned in the linked interview about the need for each church to have a child protection policy.
How about some of you here on the BB? Do any of your churches have such a policy? What does it include?
Maybe this is worth a separate thread, but I'd like to know more.
How about some of you here on the BB? Do any of your churches have such a policy? What does it include?
Maybe this is worth a separate thread, but I'd like to know more.
I know our church has one but since my ministry isn't in that area I'd have to ask our Pastor to Children for a copy if you're interested.
I do think this would be a worthwhile second thread- perhaps in the Pastoral Ministries section.
Steadfast Fred
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Thanks for the link, MexDeaf. It is a very interesting interview and does answer many questions.
Our church runs background checks
http://global.christianpost.com/new...following-jack-schaap-adultery-scandal-79977/
After getting my last url goofed up, I didn't try to get fancy with this one.
Errata: Jack Trieber pastors in Santa Clara. CA not St Claire.
After getting my last url goofed up, I didn't try to get fancy with this one.
Errata: Jack Trieber pastors in Santa Clara. CA not St Claire.
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Steadfast Fred
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Thanks, Squire.
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