News: Harry Potter Goes to Church

Ben,

Once again, Harry Potter along with many other movies and books are simply fictional, pretty much every kid who sees them knows it, so don't blame the character, movie or music.

karen

 

I just wanted to share a great article on this very subject. We will all have our different oppinions but sometimes we really just need to seek the Lord. The verse that always comes to mind when I have questions is; Philippians 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.


http://uk.geocities.com/christiankccottage/HarryPotter.htm

Jesus Never fails,
Mary

 

Murph, I can see your point and agree with contrsting this with Harry Potter. Both appeal to their audience, both are against biblical principles and morality.

I know there are Baptists that think it pagan to follow any OT beliefs, but I'm sure in the divided kingdom the way to get the Israelites to follow Baal worship and to sacrifice and worship in the high places was thru similar tactics. Get as close to forbidden practices and claim Christ and you'll be protected from falling into sin. Pathetic.

 

This argument is against how God wants us to teach our children. Yes, the movie is fictional, and kids most likely won't act it out, especially if we don't allow them to. But that is not the problem. This program is taking the fictional and making it ok to act it out. The program will have to be more entriguing to keep kids thinking about God than thinking about performing magic or incantations.

And what's wrong with flannelgraphs? I have seen some wonderful teachers use them and keep the kids very interested. Maybe those teachers that put kids to sleep should seek help or quit what they're doing.

 

Go ahead, use the occult to teach Bible truth.
God just loves those who disobey his word to reach the lost. He thought Saul did a good job for calling on the witch to recall Samuel for advice.

Exodus 22:18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deuteronomy 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

1Samuel 15:23For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

2Chronicles 33:1Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem:
6And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.


Come on wake up what God hates, he hates. Maybe the MVs don't teach the truth that God hates witch craft, but my KJV does very clearly teach that all witch craft is wrong.

 

While I see no harm in children reading HP Books, I don't think they should be used to teach scripture or principals of scriptures. CS Lewis' fantasy fiction is an exception because it was within the nature and intent of he and his story line to do such, that is clearly not the case with HP Books.

 

Wow, Post-it. I'm surprised, but happy to see your stand on this issue

 

Flannel graphs were outdated when I was growing up, you have to understand when you take something that kids are used to and they know, they are far more able to understand biblical teachings...when I was in Sunday school and the teacher drug out the ol' flannel graphs every kid in the class moaned because we knew it was going to be boring for the next 45 minutes or so and later we made fun of the whole thing and to this day that is the only thing I remember about her class.

There is no way that using Harry Potter is against the bible, if that's the case then using any object lesson or even parables and stories of the bible like Jesus taught was wrong because many times characters in those parables did wrong before there was right done...don't think so Charlie.

Karen

 

I would agree that Harry Potter is only fiction, until listening to a discussion on it on the John Ankerberg show.

The story directly refers to things used in Satanism like the Stone they use and several other things. It way crosses the line of fiction.

http://www.ankerberg.com/

 

NKJV The Word of God said:

Talk about exaggeration. Does anyone really think that the purpose of the Harry Potter books is to introduce children to witchcraft?

Yes, many people believe this.

Ironically, unlike the vast majority of Harry Potter's juvenile fans, many adults seem to have a problem separating fantasy from reality.

 

Which stone should we be careful of?

The stone (rock) that Christ used to build the Church on vs the stone (rock) that is used by Satanist.

How can we avoid stepping on rocks or including rocks in works of fiction?

Does Satan rule over stones or does God?

Should I remove the stepping stones in my garden just in case they are Satanic?

I'm so confused!!!

 

Well, before this thread is closed, here's something to think about:

A synopsis from a secular site re: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone: Synopsis

http://www.health.org/features/kidsarea/harrypotter/synop.aspx

Question: Is somebody taking some drugs or mixing potions in these books, too?

Well, here's something interesting: Source - The BIBLE

Here's something else interesting, too - the Greek word for witchcraft & drugs is the same word, "Pharmakeia".

http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=5331

That's all I need to know as to whether or not Harry Potter is of God or edifying for a child's spiritual condition, even if it's "pretend."

 

Well, I had to read the books to see what all the fuss was about. And I have to tell you that I found the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe written by C.S. Lewis to be about as harmful.

Because I will not let another person's opinion dictate how I will form my own, I read these books. I am of course responsible for what I think and why. And I'm sorry, but I think much more fuss is being made than is necessary. Peter Pan and Through the Looking Glass were as imaginiative and as hurtful as the book you site. Should we do away with any written work of imagination for fear that it will somehow influence us against God? Or should we accentuate Godly things instead of dwelling so intently on the ungodly, giving it much more power than it should have?

How far removed from the world must someone be to be righteous?

 

Where can we continue this discussion?

 

Laurenda, It's not just a matter of reading a fictitious story. They are mixing a fantasy with reality, and the fantasy happens to be a story favoring witchcraft. It's like playing so close to the fire and not expecting to get burned.

 

Hi, Jeremiah. You can start a new thread in the Baptist General Discussions forum if you like. We have a 3 page limit on this forum to keep the topics timely.

So, on that note, I defer to The Squire's 6:00 pm warning & will lock it up.

Thanks for a good discussion, Everyone!