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NKJV

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Clay Knick, Jul 19, 2002.

  1. Kiffin

    Kiffin New Member

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    Japheth,

    I think you missed the joke. [​IMG] and yes I agree the KJV translators did not view the Apocrypha as scripture. No one is saying the KJV is not the Word of God( Unlike Ruckmanites, most non KJV only's view the AV as a excellent translation..just not the ONLY translation) but simply poking a little fun at the idea of a innerrant KJV.
     
  2. Scott J

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    What in the world are you thinking about!? The Apocrypha is not a legitimate part of the Bible. It should be left out. That's the point. Most of the modern versions have never had it. The KJV did. While it is true that it was considered secondary to the 66 book canon, the translators felt strongly enough about it to include it and the Church of England during the same time period made its inclusion a legal requirement.

    KJVOnlyism teaches that the AV is the perfectly worded Bible with a unique claim to the title "Word of God in English." This false claim makes the views, actions, and beliefs of the translators and promoters important.
     
  3. Clay Knick

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    Chris,

    I have an OT professor friend who uses the
    NKJV when he preaches. He believes it is
    a good "bridge" for those in the pews who
    are using the NIV or KJV.

    I've pretty much found that to be true with
    the ESV. My friend was one of the translation
    consultants on the ESV and he thinks it is
    a good "bridge" for the KJV and NIV users too.

    conu
     
  4. Chris Temple

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    Agreed :D
     
  5. Chris Temple

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    Sure. The final authority is God's word, the Bible, which is every faithful translation of Scripture in many vulgar languages.
    1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, Ch 1, Article VIII
     
  6. TomVols

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    A major problem with this logic is that maps and concordances don't teach the doctrine of purgatory, prayers for the dead, etc.
     
  7. Japheth

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    I understand what you ment; I am glad to be counted a Ruckmanite and a KJV-onlyist,I have no problem with that. I just believe in what I stand for.. [​IMG]
     
  8. Chris Temple

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    Then this amounts to "I know what I believe, don't confuse me with the facts .." :rolleyes:
     
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  10. BrianT

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    Moderators! Japheth is name-calling! ;) :D [​IMG] :rolleyes:
     
  11. Japheth

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    Yes, I'm calling myself names :D [​IMG] [​IMG] :cool:

    [ July 30, 2002, 10:04 PM: Message edited by: Japheth ]
     
  12. Pastor Larry

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    Moderators! Japheth is name-calling! ;) :D [​IMG] :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]where is Kevo and KJVTim and bro coley when you need them ... [​IMG] :D :D Funny how perspective changes isn't it??
     
  13. Japheth

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    My perspective has changed none.The KJV IS the word of God; good day..
     
  14. Pastor Larry

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    I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about people who started shouting about namecalling when they were identified as people who believed what Ruckman taught. I was simply commenting on how strange it is that they don't respond to your post accusing you of name calling.

    And, you are right, the KJV is the Word of God [​IMG]
     
  15. Clay Knick

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    This topic got a little off center.
    I'd still like to hear from some
    of you about your use of the NKJV.
    Is it your all purpose Bible or
    do you use others? Any
    other thoughts about the use of
    the NKJV because of its positive
    strengths would be of interest to
    me and I'm sure to others.
     
  16. Jesus is Lord

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    I use it in my Bible studies everyday.
    I really love the KJV and use it very often. But (as a German) there are too many words I don´t understand yet. So I use the NKJV that gives me the wording of the KJV but in a more contemporary language.

    Be blessed.

    Alex
     
  17. Japheth

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    Get yourself a copy of the Heilige Schrift;it was translated from the same Text as the AV1611,just in German.. :cool:

    [ August 04, 2002, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: Japheth ]
     
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    I used to belong to a KJVO church. When the
    NKJV came out, though, I bought one, because
    as a SS teacher, I found the thees, thous, be-
    gottens, and hithers to be obstacles to my 4th
    and 5th grade students.

    However, just days after writing my name in my
    new Bible, I was reading in Psalms at church one
    day, when I came across a portion I had never
    read before. I grabbed a KJV to see what it
    said in the same place, and the words and
    messsage were totally unrelated!

    When I got home, I got my Hebrew Bible and
    read what it actually said. It was basically like
    the KJV and Totally unlike the NKJV! That really
    blew me away. Somehow, the NKJV went com-
    pletely off on something other than what the
    Bible said for some unknown reason.

    I completely lost trust in the whole NKJV, be-
    cause if they could do it once, they could do it
    many times over. I put that $70 Bible away and
    bought my classroom a bunch of inexpensive
    NIVs. At least, they understood the words in
    these.

    Unfortunately, I used to know which Psalm
    this was, but I no longer remember.

    I, personally, use the NASV most of the time for
    study, but most of my memorization is from 45+
    years in the KJV. For just reading, I like the CJB.
    When reading the NIV, I believe one must be
    constantly on watch for error; it is an easy-
    reader, though.

    But the NKJV? No.

    [ August 04, 2002, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]
     
  19. JesusIsLord

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    Let me say it very clear!!! I read it so many times... please believe me, as a German that knows the KJV very well, that "Die Heilige Schrift" von Martin Luther is NOT translated from the Textus Receptus!
    It doesn´t have 1. John 5:7, its wording is very often very different!
    Luther used the Septuagint very often!

    LUTHER´S TRANSLATION IS NOT THE KJV IN GERMAN!!! :eek:
     
  20. Kiffin

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    Sorry, But I find that hard to believe. I'm not saying this was not your impression in that I believe you are giving a honest opinion but the main differances between Bible translations is in the New Testament. I generaly preach from a NKJV every sunday (Occasionaly I may use the KJV, NIV, Amplified etc..) and KJV users have little trouble following. My experiance when comparing the KJV and the NKJV is that when there are major differances between the 2, the NKJV is almost always correct. I would be interested in knowing which Psalm you are referring to.
     
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