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No, Jeb Bush Is Not the Wiser Bush Brother

InTheLight

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kyredneck

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The only thing 'done' here is you've shown the extent of your dishonesty in misrepresenting me and that you don't know the difference between the right and the left. At no time have I ever said that "Obama is the product of rich Jewish neocons".

In this thread.

I asked you "Kind of destroys your conspiracy theory, doesn't it?

And you answered, "No."

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2234094&postcount=8

Again, you show your dishonesty. You ask me this loaded knee jerk question that I mistakenly answered assuming there was more substance to you than to accost me for answering it. I assure you I'm no more a 'conspiracy theorist' than was Eisenhower when he warned us of the dangers of the military industrial complex which is where we find ourselves today.
 

wpe3bql

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This is why I've never voted for a GOP candidate for President since I was first eligible to vote in the 1968 election.

There were only two exceptions to this, and they were in 1980 & 1984.

Say what you want about the GOP presidents, but with that one exception, they are all just Democrat Lights. :BangHead:
 

carpro

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Two observations:

"Smart" and "wise" are not even closely related.

"Neocons" and "Conservatives" are not the same thing.
 

777

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Neocon this, neocon that - it means a Jew that is pro-war and that's all it means.

Not sure why it's scary he doesn't stand a chance. Conservatives will never vote for him.

There is no way - put Jeb on the ballot and he will lose badly to anybody. He thinks he's running for president of Mexico and I wish he was.
 

kyredneck

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Neocon this, neocon that - it means a Jew that is pro-war and that's all it means.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2227636#post2227636
"By neo-con I mean, broadly, purveyors of the war industry and adherents to The Project for the New American Century “Statement of Principles”. I think that's the general use/intent of the term nowadays."

But granted, Dubya had more than his share of those you describe as his advisors, which is probably the roots of that definition:

A List of prominent Jewish Neocons and their role in getting the U.S. into Iraq and Homeland Security

...and Jeb has actually recruited some of these onto his foreign policy team; a very telling humongous blunder on his part, imo.
 
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Jedi Knight

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He thinks he's running for president of Mexico and I wish he was.
Yes he is a Mexican in heart "like the white chick trying to be a black chick" and speaks Spanish at home. He will have us convert to Mexico's ghetto before he would restore our language.
 
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church mouse guy

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Neocon this, neocon that - it means a Jew that is pro-war and that's all it means.



There is no way - put Jeb on the ballot and he will lose badly to anybody. He thinks he's running for president of Mexico and I wish he was.

Thanks! There have been a couple of us who have been saying that about the definition of neo-con for ten years on this board to no avail.

I was astonished to read this morning that Jeb is a Roman Catholic.

Jeb is still the establishment candidate for President. The establishment GOP does not want someone like Cruz. Notice how Krauthammer puts Cruz down all the time, for example.

Hillary may have serious medical issues. She had a concussion followed by blood clots in the brain and Bill said the other day that for six months it was uncertain if she was going to improve. She looks tired. She talks about going back to the days of Bill's presidency so long ago and so far away. She just does not seem to have any plans or any ideas except those of twenty years ago in the last century and the last millennium.
 

poncho

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Neocon this, neocon that - it means a Jew that is pro-war and that's all it means.



There is no way - put Jeb on the ballot and he will lose badly to anybody. He thinks he's running for president of Mexico and I wish he was.

A neocon is created when you mix a Wilsonian (make the world safe for democracy) progressive, a paranoid cold warrior and a zionist fanatic.

One doesn't have to be a "Jew" to be a neocon, but one does have to be paranoid, easily frightened and willing to be mislead by the same lies and fear mongering over and over and over and over again.

Jeb Bush Exposed Part 1 – His Top Advisors Will Be the Architects of His Brother’s Iraq War

http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/02/18/oligarch-rules-jeb-bush-surrounds-himself-with-the-architects-of-his-brothers-iraq-war/
 
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Crabtownboy

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I have been a Conservative all my 84 years. Please explain the difference between neocon and Conservative.

No need to explain the difference if you are already a conservative. However here is an explanation of Neocon or Neoconservative.

Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s. Many of its adherents rose to political fame during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administrations of George W. Bush, George H W Bush and Tony Blair, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1] Prominent neoconservatives in the Bush administration included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and Paul Bremer.
The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left to the camp of American conservatism.[2] Neoconservatives frequently advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force, and are known[by whom?] for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism.[3][4] Many early neoconservative thinkers were Jewish and published articles in Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee.[5][6] They spoke out against the New Left, and in that way helped define the movement.[7][8] C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (1899–1973),[9] though in doing so they may draw upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Neoconservatism
 

poncho

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Is that all you got? You can't actually defend your position so you move toward personal attack that you are so well known for and the reason why you usually do not get responses.

Words in bold have been changed to prove a point.
 

777

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Alright, so a neo-con is usually a Jew, but Scooter Libby and Jeb Bush are both non-Jewish neo-cons?

Okay, well, are the Clintons neo-cons by your definition? I'd always considered all of the Bush family to be establishment New England Rockefeller Republicans.

No matter, no Jeb, and that's not even his real name but I guess it sounded folksy or something when he used that the first time he decided to run for office and it stuck.

He's awful all-around but I can see why the left want him to get the GOP nomination - he'd convince Republicans to vote for Hillary or stay home. Jeb is clueless, he thinks he can win the "hispanic" vote? Lol, what he needs to do instead is to worry about making Republicans and conservatives vote for him but then I think Rubio could do a much better job of that - at least Marco doesn't blabber in Spanish every day.

His Mexican wife is an Imelda Marcus wannabe and she can still barely speak English after being in this country for decades. Then there's his stupid support of Commie Core and the way he did Terry Schiavo. No more Bushes - church is right when he said Hillary was stale but Jeb is just decomposed altogether.
 

carpro

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I have been a Conservative all my 84 years. Please explain the difference between neocon and Conservative.

Biggest difference is that so called neocons spend like liberals. I'd bet the farm you're fiscally conservative.

Democrats are equally as hawkish as "neocons", but try much harder to hide it.
 

poncho

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Biggest difference is that so called neocons spend like liberals. I'd bet the farm you're fiscally conservative.

Democrats are equally as hawkish as "neocons", but try much harder to hide it.

They aren't doing a very good job of it.
 
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OldRegular

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No need to explain the difference if you are already a conservative. However here is an explanation of Neocon or Neoconservative.

So you are telling me that Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle were former leftists. You can't be serious Mr. Crab!
 

poncho

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That's the old definition of neocon.

This one is more up to date and accurate . . .

A neocon is created when you mix a Wilsonian (make the world safe for democracy) progressive, a paranoid cold warrior and a zionist fanatic.

One doesn't have to be a "Jew" (or former leftist) to be a neocon, but one does have to be paranoid, easily frightened and willing to be mislead by the same lies and fear mongering over and over and over and over again.
 
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