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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You been snared by the teachings of men who are against the Gospel of Gods Grace, Tulip

Well since I have been a christian for over 65 years and only heard of calvinism about 10 or 12 years ago it would be rather hard to have been snared as you say.

I do not agree with your Dog/TULIP because it is not a biblical doctrine but rather a man-made theory of God's salvation plan.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Well since I have been a christian for over 65 years and only heard of calvinism about 10 or 12 years ago it would be rather hard to have been snared as you say.

I do not agree with your Dog/TULIP because it is not a biblical doctrine but rather a man-made theory of God's salvation plan.
You have been deceived for over 65 years like anyone else who reject the Gospel of God's Grace Tulip stands for.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You have been deceived for over 65 years like anyone else who reject the Gospel of God's Grace Tulip stands for.

You should look in the mirror if you want to see the person that has been deceived.

I learned trust the word of God whereas you have learned to trust the word of man.
 

cjab

Active Member
I dont know why you going in circles for,, man doesnt have freewill ability to believe in Jesus
Quite the opposite. With the advent of the law of Moses came ability of all Jews to put their faith in God. The words of Moses were spoken to the entire Jewish community - all those that had passed through the Yam Suph. In Deut. 30, "choice" was formally given by God back to men, who declared all Jews masters of their own destiny. The same choice is given to all men with the advent of Jesus Christ (John 3).

The only persons barred from faith in Christ were those who had already apostatized from Moses to pursue the doctrines of devils. They were guilty not only of disobeying Moses, but of causing others to disobey Moses: Matt 18:6. It is this specific category of sinner that God targeted with blindness to Christ, but in all things, God takes everything into account, including his own purposes.

To maintain your credibility, you must face up to this biblical reality that one's personal moral history prior to hearing the gospel is not disconnected to one's willingness to receive the gospel. It is God who determines culpability, and eligibility, in all such things. If you are unrepentant (a lover of falsehood), the gospel will be of no avail. The bible teaches this, over and again.
 
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Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Quite the opposite. With the advent of the law of Moses came ability of all Jews to put their faith in God. The words of Moses were spoken to the entire Jewish community - all those that had passed through the Yam Suph. In Deut. 30, "choice" was formally given by God back to men, who declared all Jews masters of their own destiny. The same choice is given to all men with the advent of Jesus Christ (John 3).
Man doesnt have the freewill ability to believe in Christ Jn 6:44, John wrote of some jews that could not believe Jn 12:39-40

39 Therefore they could not believe
, because that Esaias said again,

40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Now did they have their own freewill ability to believe when scripture says they couldn't ? On top of that God blinded their eyes and hardened their so they could not believe !
 
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