If you believe that, that an unsaved man CAN come to Jesus to accept or reject him, then why do you keep fighting me when I say a man can hear the gospel and believe?
You are the one that is fighting. You cannot talk about the nature of man. When the topic is the nature of man, the depravity of man, you talk of salvation. Why is that? There is a big difference between anthropology and soteriology. Harmatiology is also an important subject. But out of those three important doctrines you simply want to stick with one of them--soteriology. The Bible has much much more to say then just one doctrine.
When I say that pleases God for a man to believe in Jesus, why do you say it is as filthy rags? Stop calling believing in Jesus as a filthy rag.
Stop your blasphemous slander.
Unless the believer believes and still rejects.
How can a believer believe and reject at the same time?
You are one very confused person.
The man can hear and believe, therefore, the man can hear the commands and put them to practice. That is what Jesus says to do! Matthew 7:24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
You quote from a parable. Parables don't teach doctrine. They illustrate doctrine already taught.
Secondly, this parable is in the context of teaching about false teachers.
Thirdly, it is not teaching about salvation.
HOWEVER, you just like the Calvinists, believe that man cannot do anything before he is saved, not even repent, or do you now claim a man can repent?
If you knew how to carry on a conversation, you would know more of what I believe. I start a conversation with you and you keep changing the topic like a typical J.W.
Do you understand that repent means to feel bad for your sins and will no longer do those sins? So, you think that is as filthy rags? You said to me in many posts that that is as filthy rags.
NO!!
1. Repent does not mean to feel bad for your sins.
2. Repent does not mean that you will never sin again.
3. Repentance has nothing to do with Isaiah 64:6
--Please go and study your Bible, and find out what repentance is. You have need of learning the most basic of doctrines. How do you know that you are saved?
So, is that correct that you believe a man, before he is saved, hear the message of Jesus, that he CAN believe, and repent too?
Yes, God is able to save a person once he hears the gospel.
You do believe like the Calvinists that man cannot do anything to please God.
You say that a man can believe in Jesus before he is saved, but that is as a filthy rag!
Stop talking about two things at one time.
An unsaved man cannot do anything to please God. That is true. Once he is saved he is no longer an unsaved man is he? Believing on Jesus, or faith is not a work. Remember that:
Faith is not a work!
Therefore an unsaved man cannot DO anything that pleases God.
All his righteousnesses are as filthy rags, as the Bible says.
You said a man cannot do any of the teachings Jesus tells him to do, except believe in them? That is nonsense. You do not believe you can do not one single thing out of all of Jesus’ teachings. Even an atheist can forgive someone. Even an atheist can marry someone. Even an atheist can help his brother in need. Even an atheist can stop cheating on his wife.
The devils believe and tremble.
No, I didn't say that. You have either mistaken what I said, or quoted me out of context. Actually you did not quote me at all, so how do I know what you are saying is true? Don't put words in my mouth.
People practice the works of Jesus all the time, as in the Ten Commandments, but that doesn't make them saved. It won't make them acceptable in the sight of God either. The unsaved cannot do good; he cannot love God.
You say you do not believe like Calvinists, but you believe more like Calvinists when it comes to depravity then not.
It is a similar belief. But that is because you don't believe in the depravity of man at all.
