JustChristian
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George Bush should have been court marshalled for being AWOL in war time. He wasn't because of his father's influence. That didn't exonerate him though.
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No Regrets; William Ayers
- Thread starter Bro. Curtis
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Bush ?
AWOL ?
Are you just kind of thrahing around, right now ?
Anyway, I reiterate.....
"This isn't about justice. It's about exposing this guys friends & associates as America-hating criminal leftists. Nice try, though."
AWOL ?
Are you just kind of thrahing around, right now ?
Anyway, I reiterate.....
"This isn't about justice. It's about exposing this guys friends & associates as America-hating criminal leftists. Nice try, though."
BaptistBeliever said:
Do you always have this much problem staying on task?
BaptistBeliever said:
That story was discredited four years ago, along with the fake documentation that should have resulted in jail time for Rather and his producer, not to speak of the mental case that fabricated the lie.
So, your charge is a lie.
However, even if it were true, the following applies.
1. AWOL in wartime only applies if your unit is in the war.
2. AWOL is only AWOL if done intentionally
3. He was transferring to another unit, after being turned down for a combat slot because the waiting list was so long to get into a combat unit. (Fighter pilots LIKE what they do).
4. There was a paperwork glich which was fixed.
5. He received an honorable discharge.
These are facts. The charge you made is a lie, that is an L-I-E, and it is four years old
Obama has been in cahoots with hate America radicals from the start, and that is a fact as well.
Well, it seems Obama would have had to be as clueless as a rock not to have known. Erick Erikson provides the following analysis:
At the height of this exposure, major media outlets were quoting Bill Ayers and pointing out his radical past.
What else happened in 1996 when the media was reminiscing about the Democratic Convention of 1968, and interviewing key players like Bill Ayers?
Bill Ayers held a fundraiser for Barack Obama.
And we’re really supposed to believe Obama did not know, by 1996, given all the major media coverage of the 1996 Democratic Convention going back to Chicago despite the 1968 riots — including local and national media interviews with Bill Ayers on the subject — that Obama did not know?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Hotair has the coup de gras on this issue:
Ayers was hardly quiet about his life and his aspirations. He wrote a book about it in 2001. Chicago Magazine did a lengthy profile of him at the time, complete with pictures of Ayers standing on an American flag thrown on the ground in an alley. Nevertheless, Obama continued to work with Ayers at the Woods Fund and work together on public events. Either Obama liked what Ayers did, or he’s the most clueless politician to have ever reached the US Senate, and neither commends itself as a recommendation for a presidential candidate.....
JustChristian
New Member
Bro. Curtis said:
You still don't understand. A criminal is someone who has broken the law and is convicted of a crime. Ayers was not convicted of a crime. He's not a criminal. Get it?
Now Keating, who McCain was associated with, is a criminal. He was convicted of a crime and served time in prison. I know George Bush tried to create his own definition of criminals holding people who hadn't been charged with anything for years without giving them access to an attorney but thank goodness george and his band of Neo-Cons are going away hopefully forever.
You don't get it. Ayers admits he is guilty. Do you read, or just yell ?
And again, Bush ?
This thread is about Ayers. He is a slimeball, despite your efforts to have him sainted.
I guess I'll see you at next recess ?
And again, Bush ?
This thread is about Ayers. He is a slimeball, despite your efforts to have him sainted.
I guess I'll see you at next recess ?
KenH said:
Just stop. Your intentional ignorance on the campaign tactics of the Obama camp is quite telling. There are and have been hundreds of lawyers and investigators in Alaska working to dig up dirt on Palin. There have been a great many attacks on Palin by the Obama camp. Your consistent attempt to present your side as being on some kind of higher road is intellectually dishonest and discrediting. Obama has yet to stick to the issues. He has consistantly used the race card. He has a clear and consistent habit of characterizing John McCain much like this. Maybe you are just working diligently to convince yourself.
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You do know that John Glenn, who is speaking at Obama rallies, was one of the Keating 5 ? I mean, since you brought it up & all.........BaptistBeliever said:
Another childish rant.
Petra-O IX
Active Member
The remains of Joe Vogler have been found:Bro. Curtis said:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE3DB153CF936A25753C1A962958260
This is the same Joe Vogler that had connection to both Sarah Palin and her husband Todd. The same Joe Vogler that stated ""The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won't be buried under their **** flag.”
With stories and rumors abounding about both Palin and Obama there is enough garbage in both campaigns to oughta make anyone go for a third party candidate.
If I vote for Baldwin, and I may, it won't be because of that story. Sorry. Ayers is more than a rumor.
Petra-O IX
Active Member
And Vogler Isn't???????Bro. Curtis said:
Any Palin involvement appears to be.
And as a Montanan, I automatically belong to a separatist movement, which I wholeheartedly support.
And as a Montanan, I automatically belong to a separatist movement, which I wholeheartedly support.
Petra-O IX
Active Member
Would you denounce America the way Vogler did???Bro. Curtis said:
I haven't seen any credible links to him from the Palin camp. I don't know if he was a contributor, if he wrote a book she read, why don't you fill us all in ?
Petra-O IX
Active Member
http://news.lalate.com/2008/09/02/alaska-independence-party-sarah-palin/Bro. Curtis said:
I already know what your going to say Bro. Curtis.
LaLate is not a reliable news source.
Lalate did use CBS as a source for their information
I'm not going to say that.
First, I don't see Vogel planting bombs. Is there a picture of him standing on the flag ? Did people need police escorts for their children because of him? Is being in a separatist movement the same as being in a subversive movement ?
And should we move this to another thread ?
First, I don't see Vogel planting bombs. Is there a picture of him standing on the flag ? Did people need police escorts for their children because of him? Is being in a separatist movement the same as being in a subversive movement ?
And should we move this to another thread ?
Petra-O IX
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No you won't see Vogler planting bombs since he is dead now.Bro. Curtis said:
But what he has stated about America still relays the same sentiment as standing on a flag.
I disagree, dude. Vogel may have hated America, he doesn't appear to have taken it out on Americans. I like separatist movements, I don't like terrorists.
Petra-O IX
Active Member
No but how many did he inspire . We don't know the damage he could have done had he lived.Bro. Curtis said:
Curtis , you may have your reasons for being part of a separatist movement . I would be shocked if you were to state that would be because you hate America. I don't believe you would say something like that.