Noah's flood Scripturally...

[atpollard]

Now you are twisting Scripture and lying.

That is a strong accusation.
What specific scriptures has he twisted?
What specific lies has he told?

You should support your claim or risk appearing to make a false accusation against a fellow Christian.

 

[church mouse guy]

That is a strong accusation.
What specific scriptures has he twisted?
What specific lies has he told?

You should support your claim or risk appearing to make a false accusation against a fellow Christian.

Ask him since you don't know either.

 

[atpollard]

Evidently you don't know what a paleontologist is. That's one who studies fossils & ancient life. And most will tellya that over 99% of all animal species that ever lived are now extinct.

I think you have misunderstood some statistic. I have read that 90% of the species that existed at the boundary of the “great extinction” died off. However they have been replaced by a vastly greater number of new species (especially with genetics and the redefining of ‘species’). For example, there are more species of insects than mammals, reptiles and amphibians combined. Two species of finch in Madagascar were observed to mate and their mixed species offspring has been identified as a completely new distinct species of finch. A decrease in speciation (number of distinct species) runs contrary to the assumptions of Darwinism and would be a significant issue if true. Species branch over time and form more new species, not less.

 

[atpollard]

Ask him since you don't know either.

That was a rude and unchristian post.
I will follow the advice of 2 Timothy 3:5 and have nothing further to do with you.

[2Ti 3:2-9 NIV] 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

 

[church mouse guy]

That was a rude and unchristian post.
I will follow the advice of 2 Timothy 3:5 and have nothing further to do with you.

[2Ti 3:2-9 NIV] 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God-- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Nothing wrong with misquoting Scripture, is there? You are the one who is rude.

 

[robycop3]

I think you have misunderstood some statistic. I have read that 90% of the species that existed at the boundary of the “great extinction” died off. However they have been replaced by a vastly greater number of new species (especially with genetics and the redefining of ‘species’). For example, there are more species of insects than mammals, reptiles and amphibians combined. Two species of finch in Madagascar were observed to mate and their mixed species offspring has been identified as a completely new distinct species of finch. A decrease in speciation (number of distinct species) runs contrary to the assumptions of Darwinism and would be a significant issue if true. Species branch over time and form more new species, not less.

Now I know many species have become larger or smaller over time, such as dragonflies, that useta have a 1-foot wingspan, and horses, that were once the size of Collies & had a toe on each side of their hooves that reached the ground. But many unique species have gone extinct, such as T-Rex.

 

[BenWest]

And again, remember, Scripture says Noah had at least one pair of EVERY animal on the ark. that means mammoths, saaber tooth, dire wolf, etc. were extinct in Noah's day, as they're better-equipped to survive than today's equivalent animals.

Sabre-toothed cats existed from the Eocene through the Pleistocene Epoch (55.8 million to 11,700 years ago). According to the fossil record, the Nimravidae were extant from about 37 million to 7 million years ago. britannica.com/animal/saber-toothed-cat Since the Ark arrived on this planet 11,000 years ago in man's time, HOW could these animals be on the Ark after they went extinct? You're just trying to fool us....aren't you?

 

[BenWest]

Look at a map of that area with rivers & streams on it. You'll see there are some other rivers & streams that begin in the vicinity of where the Euphrates does. And we don't know how large the garden of Eden was. And naturally, the flood altered things some. And we don't know how large a stream had to be for the ancients to call it a river.

And, no, there was no such thing as "Adam's earth". There's been only ONE earth, & Adam lived on it same as we do.

Did Adam live in the first Heaven or the second? The first Heaven was made on the 2nd Day according to Genesis 1:8. Other Heavens (plural) were also made the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4 The other HeavenS came from the singularity which Lord God/Jesus made temporarily, 13.8 billion years ago. Other singularities can continue from the first inflation, which means that the creation of other worlds/Heavens/Universes is never ending. God is not limited by man's inability to comprehend His work.

 

[BenWest]

That is just the History of men in Europe (from the Encyclopedia Britannica), but this History says men were found throughout Europe far before 11,000 years ago (9,000 BC).

Since today's Science is ignorant of the fact that Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived on this Earth in the mountains of Ararat, 11,000 years ago, they have Falsely believed and force taught their Theory of magical Evolution to our innocent children for more than 70 years now. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam) since they descended from the last universal common ancestor on this Planet. Humans (descendants of Adam) were made with a mind like God's. Genesis 3:22 We did NOT evolve from ANY other living creature since we were FIRST made, long before any other creature.

 

[atpollard]

Since today's Science is ignorant of the fact that Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived on this Earth in the mountains of Ararat, 11,000 years ago, they have Falsely believed and force taught their Theory of magical Evolution to our innocent children for more than 70 years now. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam) since they descended from the last universal common ancestor on this Planet. Humans (descendants of Adam) were made with a mind like God's. Genesis 3:22 We did NOT evolve from ANY other living creature since we were FIRST made, long before any other creature.

Forget “prehistoric people” and “evolution” for a moment and just look at modern human beings ...

From about 35,000 BCE, anatomically modern humans—Homo sapiens sapiens, the ancestor of modern populations—were found throughout Europe

PEOPLE have been THROUGHOUT Europe for about 37,000 years, so HISTORY cannot agree that people started in Mesopotamia only 11,000 years ago (9,000 BCE).

 

[robycop3]

Did Adam live in the first Heaven or the second? The first Heaven was made on the 2nd Day according to Genesis 1:8. Other Heavens (plural) were also made the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4 The other HeavenS came from the singularity which Lord God/Jesus made temporarily, 13.8 billion years ago. Other singularities can continue from the first inflation, which means that the creation of other worlds/Heavens/Universes is never ending. God is not limited by man's inability to comprehend His work.

God didn't make any of those things 'temporarily". I don't know where you get that nonsense from, but it's sure not SCRIPTURE.

 

[robycop3]

Sabre-toothed cats existed from the Eocene through the Pleistocene Epoch (55.8 million to 11,700 years ago). According to the fossil record, the Nimravidae were extant from about 37 million to 7 million years ago. britannica.com/animal/saber-toothed-cat Since the Ark arrived on this planet 11,000 years ago in man's time, HOW could these animals be on the Ark after they went extinct? You're just trying to fool us....aren't you?

Newp, just explaining the TRUTH. God re-arranged an already-existing earth when he made the present surface of it. there were no men til He made them in this arrangement. So-called "cave men" were not people in God's own image. just because they had some skills doesn't make them people. After all, a spider can weave an intricate web no human can do with the fanciest machine, & many birds can make nests whose construction is more-complicated than anything a person could make. And both critters do it without hands !

 

[robycop3]

Herodotus was told by an Egyptian priest, from whom he gleaned a great deal of knowledge about other things, which as proven accurate, that there'd been 340 generations, of people before him. This figures out to some 13,700 years, allowing 3 generations per century.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[robycop3]

I still say God brought most of the animals to Noah, & put them into estivation, so they didn't eat, drink, bathroom, or fight among themselves during their time on the ark. After the ark was opened, God took the animals to the habitats He'd made each one for.

 

[BenWest]

Forget “prehistoric people” and “evolution” for a moment and just look at modern human beings ...

PEOPLE have been THROUGHOUT Europe for about 37,000 years, so HISTORY cannot agree that people started in Mesopotamia only 11,000 years ago (9,000 BCE).

They were NOT Human (descendants of Adam), but instead, came from the last universal common ancestor on the present Earth. https://phys.org › Biology › Evolution › Cell & Microbiology
Humans came from another world, which was completely underwater. Genesis 1:6-8

 

[BenWest]

God didn't make any of those things 'temporarily". I don't know where you get that nonsense from, but it's sure not SCRIPTURE.

Sure it is but it is NOT God the Trinity, who creates temporarily. It's Lord God or Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. Jesus made Adam from the dust of the ground temporarily which means that he was subject to death. Genesis 2:7 When God (Elohim) creates, it is ALWAYS an eternal creation. It's also WHY we must be born again, born Spiritually, Eternally by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. (Elohim) Genesis 1:26 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16

 

[BenWest]

Newp, just explaining the TRUTH. God re-arranged an already-existing earth when he made the present surface of it. there were no men til He made them in this arrangement.

It is NOT true that an already existing earth was re-arranged and this CANNOT be shown Scripturally. Also, Adam, the first Human was made on the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs, rain and Trees. Genesis 2:4-9 completely refutes your false notions. Try again?

 

[BenWest]

I still say God brought most of the animals to Noah, & put them into estivation, so they didn't eat, drink, bathroom, or fight among themselves during their time on the ark. After the ark was opened, God took the animals to the habitats He'd made each one for.

Okay. I have a big pretty bridge for sale. The Ark was on the face of the flood for 11 months. What did He do with the Dinosaurs? BTW, is estivation like magical sleep? You should alert the new Space Force.

 

[BenWest]

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