Noah's flood Scripturally...

[BenWest]

You got off on the wrong foot when you said that the second month to Moses meant February. It is very difficult to take you seriously after that.

It's because most people falsely believe that the Ark was upon the waters of a flood for a year. When you actually read what it teaches, it says the flood began in the 2nd month and 17th day, Genesis 7:11 and rested upon the mountains of Ararat in the 7th month and 17th day. Genesis 8:4 What God indicates is that it was 150 days or 5 months from the time the flood began until it ended.

The flood was above the mountains on Adam's Earth on the 150th day after the flood began Gen 7:20-24 and the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood began. Gen 8:4 Can you tell us HOW this was possible? It's simple when you know the answer.

 

[BenWest]

Amen!!!!
This character has made so many totally, completely, idiotic over-the-top claims, that it’s amazing he/she is still around. One blatant example: “I'm just a man, a no body anyone should listen to but I know the secret of unlocking Genesis and ALL of the rest of the Bible.”

Do you think it is deceptive to use two sentences put together in order to try to discredit the author? Of course it is. I'm just a man, a nobody anyone should listen to UNLESS it agrees with Scripture, science, history, genetics and math. I ALSO know the secret of unlocking Genesis and ALL the rest of the Bible. Would you like to see? No one, who has, has been able to refute this secret. It's so easy a 9 year old can understand, or those who can read and comprehend with the reading level of a 9 year old.

 

[BenWest]

Adam's world is basically the same as this one, except what the flood altered. remember, Scripture named the rivers coming from Eden, which still exist.

ONE of the Rivers was on Adam's Earth and Noah named the one on the present Earth AFTER the Euphrates River of the first Earth. There is NO place on Earth where 4 Rivers all proceed from the same source in Eden. Genesis 2:10

Scripture says Noah took at least a pair of EVERY animal aboard the ark.

Old wives tale since Scripture says at least 2 of every "sort". Genesis 6:19-20

The world is much-older than some believe, and the proof it was already here when God re-arranged it is seen in Scripture, that says God's spirit moved over the FACE OF THE DEEP. That "deep" wasn't just a ball of water floating in space. And the sun was here, of course, or it wouldn'ta been water, but a sheet of ice harder than steel. I suggest you do some STUDYING, & see that Scripture & science go hand-in-hand.

Not so since balls of water or ice don't float in space. The firmament or boundary of Adam's Heaven protected the interior of the firmament from the water which totally surrounded it. Genesis 1:6-7 Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 and the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW are NOT surrounded by water, either the magical floating kind or the wet kind. Get real.

 

[robycop3]

ONE of the Rivers was on Adam's Earth and Noah named the one on the present Earth AFTER the Euphrates River of the first Earth. There is NO place on Earth where 4 Rivers all proceed from the same source in Eden. Genesis 2:10

The sources of the Tigris & Euphrates are only 50 miles apart, & coulda been the same before the flood. And we don't know how large the land of Eden was.

Old wives tale since Scripture says at least 2 of every "sort". Genesis 6:19-20

HOW SILLY !

The ancients didn't use "species". That word wasn't used in a biological sense til the 1600s AD. So the word translated "sort" or "kind" meant the same as "species" does to us.

Not so since balls of water or ice don't float in space. The firmament or boundary of Adam's Heaven protected the interior of the firmament from the water which totally surrounded it. Genesis 1:6-7 Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6 and the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW are NOT surrounded by water, either the magical floating kind or the wet kind. Get real.

Well, balls of water don't, either. Since the waters were there, so was the earth. Adam's earth was nearly the same as our earth - the same planet. And the world was not surrounded by water. That idea is just plain GOOFY !

 

[BenWest]

Aman:>>Not so, since Noah's flood was contained to Lake Van, Turkey. Adam's entire Earth was "clean dissolved" Isaiah 24:19 but the present world was obviously not. It's still here and will be so for at least another thousand years AFTER Jesus returns. Rev 20:4

MMRRPP ! WRONG !

This is in reference to God's coming remaking of earth after the millenium.

Not so since that would mean that God lied to Noah. He told Noah:
Gen 9:11 And I will establish My covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

You also missed the SNARE or trap which God set with the flood which will destroy the false Theory of Evolution in the last days. Read Isaiah 24:18 and see if you can find the Trap or Snare which God set.

Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

 

[777]

Amen!!!!
This character has made so many totally, completely, idiotic over-the-top claims, that it’s amazing he/she is still around. One blatant example: “I'm just a man, a no body anyone should listen to but I know the secret of unlocking Genesis and ALL of the rest of the Bible.”

This is kinda like I used to watch “HOWDY-DOODY” as a kid, NOT because I liked it, but simply because I knew something so out of left field was coming & I wanted to see what it was.
Same here!!!

her m.o., and now she's got her sock "2Pillars" running around rating her posts up.
here's the gist of ALL her posts:

Adam on day 3
there has been no 7th day yet
multiverse
orange man bad

Rinse and repeat.

 

[BenWest]

The sources of the Tigris & Euphrates are only 50 miles apart, & coulda been the same before the flood. And we don't know how large the land of Eden was.

Amen. God was very precise in identifying the area where the Ark arrived in Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat. Noah and his descendants walked down from the mile high Lake into the Cradle of Human Civilization on this Planet, Mesopotamia, the Land between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.

Notice that there was NO Tigris River on Adam's Earth. Do you think the Supreme Intelligence of Creation didn't notice that detail? Or maybe, your ancient view is flawed?

HOW SILLY !

The ancients didn't use "species". That word wasn't used in a biological sense til the 1600s AD. So the word translated "sort" or "kind" meant the same as "species" does to us.

Really? A species is the scientific definition, which teaches evolution of species into other species. God's definition is two kinds which are able to produce children together. Genesis 6:4

Well, balls of water don't, either. Since the waters were there, so was the earth. Adam's earth was nearly the same as our earth - the same planet. And the world was not surrounded by water. That idea is just plain GOOFY !

Adam's firmament was miles wide with a clear canopy on top. Inside this sphere was water with dry ground on top Genesis 1:9-10. Adam's Earth was FLAT and it's mountains were covered when the flood reached a depth of 22.5 feet. Genesis 7:20 It had only 4 Rivers which all came from the SAME source in the middle of the Garden of Eden. Genesis 2:10 You have confused Adam's small Biosphere with the 2nd Heaven or Universe of Today.

 

[BenWest]

her m.o., and now she's got her sock "2Pillars" running around rating her posts up.
here's the gist of ALL her posts:

Adam on day 3
there has been no 7th day yet
multiverse
orange man bad

Rinse and repeat.

2Pillars and Awoman are not the same but are two people who read Genesis for what it says rather that what some ancient theologian THOUGHT it said. Both are old online friends of mine. Would you like to understand Genesis? It's easy if you know the secret of Genesis which is hidden in front of everyone's eyes and has been for thousands of years now.

HInt: The first 34 verses of Genesis are the ENTIRE History of God's 7 Days, including those which are future to our time. Every other verse in the Bible refers BACK to one of these Days and "adds details" to the History of those 7 Days/Ages of God's Creation of the perfect Heaven.

 

[church mouse guy]

Adam's world is basically the same as this one, except what the flood altered. remember, Scripture named the rivers coming from Eden, which still exist.



Scripture says Noah took at least a pair of EVERY animal aboard the ark. And fossils show that over 99% of all animal species that ever existed is now extinct. And several of the recent animals were better-equipped to survive than many of the current ones, such as the woolly mammoth, which could live in a variety of climates & had much-harder, longer-lasting teeth than modern elephants, & short-faced bears, which could roam for many miles, run faster, & had much-better noses than any modern bear, whose sense of smell is almost-legendary to us.

The world is much-older than some believe, and the proof it was already here when God re-arranged it is seen in Scripture, that says God's spirit moved over the FACE OF THE DEEP. That "deep" wasn't just a ball of water floating in space. And the sun was here, of course, or it wouldn'ta been water, but a sheet of ice harder than steel. I suggest you do some STUDYING, & see that Scripture & science go hand-in-hand.

Scripture doesn't say species but kind. You are very wrong to say species. Do you think Paris, Texas, is the real Paris?

Do you still believe in evolution?

 

[robycop3]

Scripture doesn't say species but kind.

That's because the word "species" wasn't used biologically til the 1600s & certainly not when Scripture was written.

You are very wrong to say species.

No; YOU are very wrong to argue against it. What "kind" of animal is an elephant? Any other animals like it except other elephants? Rhinos, hippos, & elephants are all pachyderms so they're the same kind, but are they the same critters ?(rhetorical question)

Do you think Paris, Texas, is the real Paris?

Yes, it's the real Paris, Tx.

Do you still believe in evolution?

Nupe. Never did, even before I was saved.

 

[church mouse guy]

That's because the word "species" wasn't used biologically til the 1600s & certainly not when Scripture was written.



No; YOU are very wrong to argue against it. What "kind" of animal is an elephant? Any other animals like it except other elephants? Rhinos, hippos, & elephants are all pachyderms so they're the same kind, but are they the same critters ?(rhetorical question)



Yes, it's the real Paris, Tx.



Nupe. Never did, even before I was saved.

For example, horses and zebras are the same kind but not the same species. So Noah took one of each kind. The Ark could not hold one pair of each species. Think it out.

Genesis 6:19-20 (KJV) And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

Too bad that you don't have time to watch John Baumgardner. The Flood was far more catastrophic than you think.

 

[BenWest]

Genesis 6:19-20 (KJV) And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

What's the difference between THEIR kinds and HIS kind? Not knowing the difference makes it impossible to understand Genesis One.

 

[church mouse guy]

What's the difference between THEIR kinds and HIS kind? Not knowing the difference makes it impossible to understand Genesis One.

You altered what I posted improperly and you altered Scripture.

 

[BenWest]

You altered what I posted improperly and you altered Scripture.

False accusation, but a convenient diversion on your part.

Genesis 6:19-20 (KJV) And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep [them] alive.

Here's the question you cannot answer since it would reveal WHY you are attempting to divert attention away from your Scripturally flawed view:

BenWest said: ↑
What's the difference between THEIR kinds and HIS kind? Not knowing the difference makes it impossible to understand Genesis One, which is an outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible.

 

[church mouse guy]

False accusation, but a convenient diversion on your part.



Here's the question you cannot answer since it would reveal WHY you are attempting to divert attention away from your Scripturally flawed view:

BenWest said: ↑
What's the difference between THEIR kinds and HIS kind? Not knowing the difference makes it impossible to understand Genesis One, which is an outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible.

I did not make anything bold in what I posted but you made it look as if I did. That is wrong on all counts.

 

[BenWest]

I did not make anything bold in what I posted but you made it look as if I did. That is wrong on all counts.

I added the bolding so that you would notice what the Bible really says. You diverted attention away from the discussion because you don't know the difference between His and Their kinds. I also bolded and capitalized His and Their below. Now, can you tell us the difference between His and Their kinds?

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after His kind, and cattle after Their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Or must you admit to being unable to understand Genesis?

 

[church mouse guy]

You have no right to alter what another person posts.

 

[atpollard]

The flood was above the mountains on Adam's Earth on the 150th day after the flood began Gen 7:20-24 and the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood began. Gen 8:4

I reread Genesis 7 and 8. This is not what it says happened. You are misrepresenting Scripture.

 

[2Pillars]

You have no right to alter what another person posts.

Your continued false accusation of "ALTERING" your post does NOT carry any justification or merit to your moot reasoning and continued diversion of the issues at hand. The bolding of a couple of words in your post does not change or alter the meaning of the post. Come on... Get real...

However, obviously, it shows your lack of understanding of Genesis 1&2 and you just don't want to admit your ERRORS! .... Am I correct?

 

[church mouse guy]

Your continued false accusation of "ALTERING" your post does NOT carry any justification or merit to your moot reasoning and continued diversion of the issues at hand. The bolding of a couple of words in your post does not change or alter the meaning of the post. Come on... Get real...

However, obviously, it shows your lack of understanding of Genesis 1&2 and you just don't want to admit your ERRORS! .... Am I correct?

That is nonsense on stilts.