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None Dare Call it Treason???

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
I disagree...especially if there's a tossing of the verdict on a technicality. Then, by all means it's treason, as it gives aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

Obama is violating his Oath of Office by doing this.
:applause::applause::applause::applause:
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
As much as I agree with you, the emphasized portion says that if this clause were truly enforced, no liberal (be it Rep., Dem., or Ind.) would ever complete his/her term in office, much less have a career in gov't.

Little harsh there JWP!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Isn't the claimed excuse for American invasions around the world the intent to bring American freedom, American democracy, and American jurisprudence to the rest of the world? Iran citizens should have "constitutional rights" in Iran but not in the US? Are human rights not universal and portable?
What human rights did the Sheik give Daniel Berg as he sawed off his head?
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Constitutional rights of a particular nation are granted to persons under that constitution - not everyone in the world.

By your logic then you would be subject to the rights and limitations of every constitution in the world.

The way the leftist on the Supreme Court have been justifying their rulings they apparently think we are.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
But the president, and his attorney general, have declared him guilty, and stated he will recieve the death penalty. That is not the case with the nutcases you cite.

Yes and for that reason the case may be thrown out. Could that be what Obama and Holder want?
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
It's not within the constitutional privilege of the POTUS or attorneys general to issue a summary judgement upon a person. There are a lot of folks here who oppose Obama trying to be a dictator. Those same people, therefore, should oppose Obama being a judge and jury over persons.

I do for the simple reason it prejudices the case against these terrorists.
 

Johnv

New Member
Yes and for that reason the case may be thrown out.
There are no legal grounds for that. Prosecutors and others in public opinion say people are guilty all the time.
The way the leftist on the Supreme Court have been justifying their rulings they apparently think we are.
Facts say otherwise. To date, there have been about 300 terrorists tried and convicted in Federal Court in New York. This would be no different than those. This idea that we should fear them being tried in federal court for fear of them being found not guilty is ludicrus.
 
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Robert Snow

New Member
So I ask again...what is the purpose of this trial ? A president, an attorney general, and the defendant all agree on the guilt of the accused, and all agree on what the sentence should be.

All this should be done under the authority of a military tribunal. If guilty they should be sentenced to death. There is no reason to allow these terrorists to be tried on U.S. soil with the rights of U.S. citizens. Being that these "enemy combatants" were not in uniform of a declared enemy, perhaps they should be treated as a spy.
 

Johnv

New Member
This isn't new. Several hundred such terrorists were tried and convicted in New York Federal Court during the GW Bush administration. This is no different.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
There are no legal grounds for that. Prosecutors and others in public opinion say people are guilty all the time.

Facts say otherwise. To date, there have been about 300 terrorists tried and convicted in Federal Court in New York. This would be no different than those. This idea that we should fear them being tried in federal court for fear of them being found not guilty is ludicrus.

Do you have a source for the 300 terrorist convicted in in Federal Court in New York?
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Do you honestly think moderates and progressives hate this country?

I am not sure what a moderate is. Progressive is a misnomer. These people are really reactionary; they want a communist/socialist type government. And yes I believe many do hate this country!
 

FR7 Baptist

Active Member
No such monster as a moderate. And liberals hate this country as it currently stands.

Weird. I'm a political moderate and I love my country. Do you think I'm a liberal?

Anyway, I've got to go offline now. I have something to do at my church before the service tonight. So, from one Southern Baptist to another: God bless you, Reverend! I still love you as a brother in Christ despite our political disagreements.
 

Revmitchell

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Weird. I'm a political moderate and I love my country. Do you think I'm a liberal?

Yes, but I would not read into that an attack. It is just a world view. And it is easy to say you love it but when one wants to fundamentally change the country then it lack evidence.

Anyway, I've got to go offline now. I have something to do at my church before the service tonight. So, from one Southern Baptist to another: God bless you, Reverend! I still love you as a brother in Christ despite our political disagreements.

Same here
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Holder looked as incompetent before the Senate committee today as Obama does at all times. Even Senator Graham gave him a fit!
 
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