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North Korea Agrees To Open Its Doors To Christianity

Covenanter

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I also the Dough Boy reralized that unlike the prior president, this one met business in dealing with him!

I still think Dough Boy was influenced by the Spectre of trump!

Using insulting terms for national leaders shows intense disrespect. Who are you referring to? Was either leader a baker?

We know that both countries have very oppressive regimes against certain of its own citizens, but that while the US has carried out vicious wars against communist & Islamic counties, & used enduring WMDs, NK has limited its oppression to its own citizens, particularly Christians. Its nuclear posturing appears to have resulted in a more positive attitude from the USA.

We must never forget that we are dealing with real people, people like us, NOT the concept of a one-man nation. Past experience shows US have an attitude of total destruction of cities & infrastructure. NK are right to proceed with caution - they suffered total destruction in the Korean war. But they are proceeding.

May God prosper the negotiations & meetings, so that sanctions end, & NK opened up for the Gospel, beginning with full citizenship rights for Christians.
 

HankD

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That's short-sighted and ultimately doubting of God's sovereignty.

It's also sad.

Sad but true, the starving millions will be fed but Trump haters will find fault (with Trump of course, after all, can't find fault with our Father in heaven).
 

FollowTheWay

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Could it be that Trump is God's answer to this prayer? His instrument?
If and when Trump does something to allow Christianity to exist without persecution in N. Korea he might very well be considered a part of God's plan. Right now, the president of S. Korea is the primary candidate.
 

Squire Robertsson

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I must most respectfully disagree. The US is not dealing with the people of the DPRK any more than the US dealt with the people of the USSR when Stalin was in power.
We must never forget that we are dealing with real people, people like us, NOT the concept of a one-man nation.
 

Covenanter

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We must never forget that we are dealing with real people, people like us, NOT the concept of a one-man nation. Past experience shows US have an attitude of total destruction of cities & infrastructure. NK are right to proceed with caution - they suffered total destruction in the Korean war. But they are proceeding.

May God prosper the negotiations & meetings, so that sanctions end, & NK opened up for the Gospel, beginning with full citizenship rights for Christians.

I must most respectfully disagree. The US is not dealing with the people of the DPRK any more than the US dealt with the people of the USSR when Stalin was in power.

The people are affected by US actions when sanctions are involved - the ruling powers will always get what they need to maintain their lifestyle.

We can learn from people like Paul Robeson who got to the hearts of people around the world. And today the aid agencies seek to serve the people in need.
 

FollowTheWay

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I must most respectfully disagree. The US is not dealing with the people of the DPRK any more than the US dealt with the people of the USSR when Stalin was in power.
But Trump is partnering with the Russia under Putin. Putin is a strong, resourceful enemy who will take Trump and America down if allowed to do so. Trump must be stopped. Notice who he's meeting with after Kim?
 

Yeshua1

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But Trump is partnering with the Russia under Putin. Putin is a strong, resourceful enemy who will take Trump and America down if allowed to do so. Trump must be stopped. Notice who he's meeting with after Kim?
The president of the US must have a working relationship with Russia and China, as they have military might, so would you ratherrhave him tuck tail and run away scared of them, as president Obama did too many times?
Putnam is many bad things, but being a dummy is not one of them, as he will do whatever it takes to make sure Russia is not squeezed out of the military and economic things going on now in the world.
You might not like him, but we must deal with him.
 

FollowTheWay

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The president of the US must have a working relationship with Russia and China, as they have military might, so would you ratherrhave him tuck tail and run away scared of them, as president Obama did too many times?
Putnam is many bad things, but being a dummy is not one of them, as he will do whatever it takes to make sure Russia is not squeezed out of the military and economic things going on now in the world.
You might not like him, but we must deal with him.
Trump treats Russia better than our allies like the UK and Germany. Basically, they don't want him to visit their countries.
 

Wingman68

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Trump treats Russia better than our allies like the UK and Germany. Basically, they don't want him to visit their countries.
Good. Why would he want to. Give respect to get respect. Think they might be a little scared of what he might say about their refugee problems? People might agree with him, then what?! It’s hard to keep the lid on a boiling pot.
 

HankD

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Prediction: No matter the relationship the administration has with Putin, fault will be found - he is endangering the USA because he's a Russian Agent or he's putting the USA at risk because he's afraid of Putin.
 

Covenanter

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Trump treats Russia better than our allies like the UK and Germany. Basically, they don't want him to visit their countries.

I'm all in favour of positive relationships with Russia & all potential enemy powers.

I think Teresa May & Boris Johnson were seriously out of order, not only in accusing Russia of instigating the attempted murder of the retired double agent Sergei Skripal & his daughter and a British policeman, but in lying about the evidence supplied by the UK Porton Down establishment, while still collecting dirty money from Russian financiers for the Conservative Party.

Porton Down is only 8 miles from the scene of the poisoning & could easily have been a source for a "false flag attack" intended to discredit Russia, & particularly Putin on the eve of Russian elections. Also Russian success in supporting Syria could be a reason for seeking to discredit Russia - especially as the alleged use of poison agents by the Syrian government has been proved false.

But that didn't stop an attack by UK, US & France on Syria factories - an attack that would have released poison gases had they been stored in the bombed factories.

Encourage & pray for positive relations with countries we may disagree with politically. And especial pray for freedom for NK Christians, & of course Christians in all countries where they are persecuted.
 

FollowTheWay

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Good. Why would he want to. Give respect to get respect. Think they might be a little scared of what he might say about their refugee problems? People might agree with him, then what?! It’s hard to keep the lid on a boiling pot.
Their statement is "How could America have fallen so far in such little time?'
 

FollowTheWay

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I'm all in favour of positive relationships with Russia & all potential enemy powers.

I think Teresa May & Boris Johnson were seriously out of order, not only in accusing Russia of instigating the attempted murder of the retired double agent Sergei Skripal & his daughter and a British policeman, but in lying about the evidence supplied by the UK Porton Down establishment, while still collecting dirty money from Russian financiers for the Conservative Party.

Porton Down is only 8 miles from the scene of the poisoning & could easily have been a source for a "false flag attack" intended to discredit Russia, & particularly Putin on the eve of Russian elections. Also Russian success in supporting Syria could be a reason for seeking to discredit Russia - especially as the alleged use of poison agents by the Syrian government has been proved false.

But that didn't stop an attack by UK, US & France on Syria factories - an attack that would have released poison gases had they been stored in the bombed factories.

Encourage & pray for positive relations with countries we may disagree with politically. And especial pray for freedom for NK Christians, & of course Christians in all countries where they are persecuted.
I agree it's much better to talk than fight. That's what the UN was set up to provide and that's what U.S. diplomats try to effect. But Trump has virtually dismantled our experienced foreign service cadre (60% of experienced diplomats fired) and has never even appointed an ambassador to S. Korea. Isn't that an important part of the world to have diplomats in place? In fact he hasn't supported the president of S. Korea's historic effort to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula. Kim set foot on S. Korean soil for the first time ever! It only counts if he can take credit for it. .
Doesn't your suggested approach include president Obama's peace agreement with with Iran which Trump just walked away from? What about Jimmy Carter's negotiated peace between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland? What about the Paris Peace Talks which Nixon undermined to continue the war in Vietnam? Why were the Iran hostages released on the day Reagan was inaugurated. That wasn't because Iran was afraid of Reagan. Something else was going on which we found a little bit about when he confessed to the Iran Contra affair.
 

Covenanter

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Trump has virtually dismantled our experienced foreign service cadre (60% of experienced diplomats fired) and has never even appointed an ambassador to S. Korea. Isn't that an important part of the world to have diplomats in place?

Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

Still No US Ambassador in South Korea
With Victor Cha’s nomination scrapped, Washington is no closer to filling a crucial position in its ally’s capital.
 
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