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Not going to Church???
- Thread starter Salty
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Then what are people not getting from church? If they are Saved and telling that, then are they being disciples … frankly what does that even mean? I see people that I speak with who are disappointed by church. Now don’t be defensive because I’m point out things, comments ppl say… like same old, same old routines week after week … if they are born again then just what are they looking for?
Hebrews 10:25. '... Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.'
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How so?
Dave G
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" Being saved and not going to church is like being married and not going home".
Reading or hearing things like this, I'm often reminded of what is said here:
" Let us hold fast the profession of [our] faith without wavering; ( for he [is] faithful that promised; )
24 and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another:] and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." ( Hebrews 10:23-25 ).
I also understand where comments like this may come from...
A desire to influence people to obey what the Lord commands us to do.
However...
According to what I see in the above passage from Hebrews, "going to church" should be the act of God's people ( a saved, born again and baptized group who all know Christ as Lord and Saviour ) assembling together for a purpose...to mutually edify one another in the faith and to provoke each other to love and to good works.
Is this thread about doing that, or is it about advocating the modern, traditional concept of "going to church"?
Reading or hearing things like this, I'm often reminded of what is said here:
" Let us hold fast the profession of [our] faith without wavering; ( for he [is] faithful that promised; )
24 and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another:] and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." ( Hebrews 10:23-25 ).
I also understand where comments like this may come from...
A desire to influence people to obey what the Lord commands us to do.
However...
According to what I see in the above passage from Hebrews, "going to church" should be the act of God's people ( a saved, born again and baptized group who all know Christ as Lord and Saviour ) assembling together for a purpose...to mutually edify one another in the faith and to provoke each other to love and to good works.
Is this thread about doing that, or is it about advocating the modern, traditional concept of "going to church"?
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Yeah. Finding a good church is problematic in many areas.
Dave G
Well-Known Member
The only reason that I ask, is because I see a big difference between how it's done today ( at least traditionally ) and how it was done in the early churches that we see in Acts and the epistles.
There, believers met in their own houses and the money that nowadays goes towards maintaining a commonly-owned building ( and especially and paying for a full- or part-time staff ), was spent meeting the needs of the poor among them and doing good works...like giving to the poor of this world.
There, the time was spent gathering together and sharing the Scriptures, being taught the things of God by those the Lord gave that gift of teaching to, declaring doctrine, singing hymns and otherwise following the prompting of the Holy Spirit within them to do what He had them to do.
What I see traditionally, I would almost characterize as not that overly much different than going to a professional baseball game and watching the players do what they're paid to do, while the rest of the people sit and watch.
My friends, I firmly believe that that is not how it's to be among us...
Which is why I stopped "going to church" years ago, and I now assemble together with my brothers and sisters in Christ as the occasion presents itself.
There, believers met in their own houses and the money that nowadays goes towards maintaining a commonly-owned building ( and especially and paying for a full- or part-time staff ), was spent meeting the needs of the poor among them and doing good works...like giving to the poor of this world.
There, the time was spent gathering together and sharing the Scriptures, being taught the things of God by those the Lord gave that gift of teaching to, declaring doctrine, singing hymns and otherwise following the prompting of the Holy Spirit within them to do what He had them to do.
What I see traditionally, I would almost characterize as not that overly much different than going to a professional baseball game and watching the players do what they're paid to do, while the rest of the people sit and watch.
My friends, I firmly believe that that is not how it's to be among us...
Which is why I stopped "going to church" years ago, and I now assemble together with my brothers and sisters in Christ as the occasion presents itself.
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Again why must you find a good church? Indeed, just what are the characteristics of a good church?
I was raised up in a RCC and they counted it as a mortal sin not to go to a RCC. They made you feel guilty, and threaten you that you were going to hell with out going. Indeed you could understand why people shunned it so.
Fast forwarding a bit and going on Sunday,Wednesday etc became a routine and I got bored. Could I not study at home, could I not meet people throughout the week who encouraged genuine Christianity? It just becomes, “Same old same old routine”… I could take nature walks or go to the beach and sense Gods presence. And now with my wife’s passing I view life as all to short and fleeting. Would have been better to spend the time enjoying life together? Today I think so. Does that make me a bad Christian?