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"Not my words..."

Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by webdog, Oct 6, 2007.

  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    I think there is a difference. That verse says "as it were...". The prayer "...my words be Your words" is not stating my words are "as" the words of God...but the words that come from my mouth ARE God's words.
     
  2. swaimj

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    Webdog, here is the entire quote:
    The words "Lord, let the words..." form a request. The person saying this is not declaring that their words are God's words, they are requesting of God that their words be his words. I think that is roughly equivalent to Peter's instruction.
     
  3. TomVols

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    You're welcome :thumbs:

    My poor wife almost fainted at the Belfry football stadium Saturday. Fairly hot for an October. Thought we'd be escaping some southern heat by coming up there. You left the heat on, Brother! :laugh:
     
  4. Brother Bob

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    My wife and I were in Pigeon Forge, Tn. for a week's vacation and filling my face with all that good food. We may have passed on the road, if you came up route 23......:)

    BBob,
     
  5. webdog

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    The person making the request is asking for the words that come out of their mouth to be God's...and not theirs. This is almost asking for prophet like status.

    I think there is a difference between Lord, speak through me (physically) and speak through me (the message I'm delivering).
     
  6. swaimj

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    OK, Webdog, I'm trying to track with you and see what you are saying. Here is the statement you are arguing against again:
    Here is your first comment:
    It's possible that the person praying this has an incorrect attitude, but the statement itself does not seem to say what you accuse it of. The person says "let the words...be from you". How does this disagree with Peter's instruction that the person who speaks should speak as the oracle of God?
    And this comment:
    But the request is "let the words that come out of my mouth be from you". Does this mean physically or the message I'm delievering? I can't tell and I question how you can be so dogmatic about it.

    If a person is asking to speak "ex cathedra" then I agree that they are out of line. But asking that my words be "from God" is really no different from asking to be filled with the Holy Spirit. There is nothing wrong with this.
     
  7. Brother Bob

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    The heat is off now, itis 57 today. We always use visiting preachers, how come Mark didn't use you?

    BBob,
     
  8. TomVols

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    It's his responsibility to feed his flock. I've preached there before though for special occasions.

    A good man is coming up to preach revival services at the church there starting Sunday.
     
  9. Brother Bob

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    Yea, I was told Mark''s former Pastor I believe they said was coming. We do our services much different than you do though. We usually have 3 preachers on Sunday. One to introduce the service and lead prayer, then we have what we call the doctrine preacher follow and then someone who does not take long to close. Our services usually last about 1 and 1/2 hours, sometimes a little longer.

    BBob,
     
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