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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Jun 26, 2016.

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  1. Smyth

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    By God's word, we can say unrepentant sinners are barred from the Kingdom of Heaven.
     
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    Sorry wrong thread for a Cal vs. Armin debate.
     
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    If they are not the elect and those practicing homosexuality that die in their sins obviously were not unfortunately.
     
    #43 evangelist6589, Jun 28, 2016
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    But how do you know if they are or are not numbered among the elect? Do you have a crystal ball or what?
     
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    And how do you know if they are unrepentant or not?
     
    #45 TCassidy, Jun 28, 2016
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    I agree with this post.
     
    #46 evangelist6589, Jun 28, 2016
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    They're committing sins while expressing a lack of repentance.
     
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    And how do you know that about everybody shot or killed in the venue?
     
    #48 TCassidy, Jun 28, 2016
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    Not everyone, but its safe to say that most.
     
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    Why is it safe to say most? How do you know that?
     
    #50 TCassidy, Jun 28, 2016
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    LOL....Particular Baptist Right. Ive spent enough time reading old Baptist sermons & doctrine to know one when I see one. No Calvinist Lordship Salvation stuff going on here I'm thinking.:Wink
     
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    I beg to differ. :rolleyes:
     
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    So you think that the Orlando nightclub was filled with Christians?
     
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    Typical Irish Cop ..... :Cool
     
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    Dont ask him to think.
     
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    Lets say for arguments sake Evangelist that there was a "Former" Homosexual in that club that night trying to evangelize. How bout someone in there in the process of changing his or her sexual orientation to be straight ....or at least abstain from sin .... because of that evangelist! And they get mowed down.

    Let me ask you something......Is it more sinful to be a homosexual or a alcoholic? Guess I am asking you if you rank certain sins as more terrible than other sins.
     
    #56 Earth Wind and Fire, Jun 29, 2016
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    Lets go a little deeper Steve to a sin you don't see has anyone ever been guilty of this?... Brother Glen

    Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

    5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
     
    #57 tyndale1946, Jun 29, 2016
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    That is the difference between you and me. I don't know, and I don't pretend to know.
     
    #58 TCassidy, Jun 29, 2016
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    And on what authority to you apply that to every person in the venue in question?
     
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    EWT did a pretty good job directing the discussion in the way I was going. Let's take it even a little farther. Suppose one of the people present had heard the gospel but did not respond. But he was thinking about it. He is lost. He is still committing the abominable sin. But next week or next month God will draw him to Himself and regenerate that man and he will understand, slowly, but surely, that his lifestyle is an affront to his Holy God. He will repent and live a godly life in Christ as well as he is able.

    Do you still think he deserves to die in that holocaust?
     
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