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[evangelist6589]

:laugh: That was funny! Glad you pointed this out.

It is obvious to many on this board that you are a scholar. Some pretend to be scholars (like WinMan) but in reality just do nothing but air their opinions and their personal crusade against Calvinism. I am an evangelist and the topics you speak of are beyond me, but I am willing to admit it and to learn.

 

[evangelist6589]

Why don't you pick up a copy of N.T. Wright's Simply Jesus and read it for yourself. It is written on a popular level and gives you a good sense of where he is coming from theologically, historically, and ecclesiastically. I think you will find you agree with him much more than you disagree with him.

Furthermore, the book is a joy to read and refreshes the soul and spirit.

Once you have that one under your belt, you will be in a better position to have an opinion on his work.

FWIW, I'm not a big fan of MacArthur, but I have enough respect for the man to be pretty sure he would be uncomfortable with the way you are using his opinions as an arbiter of truth. He certainly would want you to give strong consideration to his opinions (just like anyone else), but I sincerely doubt he would want you to shut down your inquiry simply based on what he has said.

I know you have a heart for "open air preaching", but may I suggest you take some time to get stable in your theology before you continue your public ministry? Jesus took the first 30 years of His life to prepare for ministry and then took time away from the crowds on regular occasions to refresh, refocus
and commune with the Father and the Spirit without distractions.

If Jesus thought it was a good thing to do, I suspect it would be a good thing for you to do. Take some time and read the Bible through (cover to cover) without consulting a bunch of popular books (maybe a Bible concordance, a good Bible dictionary, etc.) and see what the whole message of the Bible is all about. The Father, Son and Spirit will guide you as you study and pray through the text. You will still come out the other side of the experience with many questions, but you will have direction and focus and know how to appraise the answers you find in popular books and opinions.

What may be popular level to you may be graduate level to someone else. For example there are those here that said that the Francis Schaeffer book I am reading is popular level, however it is used in graduate level classes in some seminaries.

Also I appreciate your intent but the advice you gave about evangelism is from the flesh. NO one is perfect in all their views, but the essentials of the faith and the use of the LAW is what is needed to be mastered. Besides I do not regularly engage in apologetic debates as they are a way a sinner wants to avoid the conscience and go to the intellect. I do not aim for the intellect but the conscience of which the LAW is best.

 

[JamesL]

I know you have a heart for "open air preaching", but may I suggest you take some time to get stable in your theology before you continue your public ministry?


Take some time and read the Bible through (cover to cover) without consulting a bunch of popular books (maybe a Bible concordance, a good Bible dictionary, etc.) and see what the whole message of the Bible is all about. The Father, Son and Spirit will guide you as you study and pray through the text.

I had to read your username a second time a second time to make sure I didn't write that. Good stuff

 

[quantumfaith]

It is obvious to many on this board that you are a scholar. Some pretend to be scholars (like WinMan) but in reality just do nothing but air their opinions and their personal crusade against Calvinism. I am an evangelist and the topics you speak of are beyond me, but I am willing to admit it and to learn.

Please be a big enough person to not make such spurious charges against another member of this board. Winman does not in anyway claim to be a "scholar" he simply calls it like HE sees it.

 

[evangelist6589]

Please be a big enough person to not make such spurious charges against another member of this board. Winman does not in anyway claim to be a "scholar" he simply calls it like HE sees it.

Then I stand corrected but at least I will admit I am wrong. You never will do this.

 

[Yeshua1]

Not sure who you searched for, his name is N. T. Wright.


If the only thing you can criticize him for is his "new" perspective on Paul, then I have little respect for someone who is afraid to read an alternate view. This is the worst side of fundamentalism... unable and unwilling to face or even approach something good b/c they don't like one small aspect of their theology. Especially when you haven't read him on his view. His book Justification was amazing (read the back and see what people said about it, even those not in the NPP camp).

NT Wright does popular level stuff and academic stuff. His Simply Jesus, How God Became King, and Surprised by Hope are a few amongst his more popular level reads. He has many more.

However, what most of you fail to recognize is that in the historical quest (are we up to the fourth?), he has handly dealt the 3rd questers a crushing blow. He has ardently defended the physical resurrection of Jesus. He has unearthed the historical Jesus without the modernists bias. He is a historian and theologian roled into one.

Of the writers I have read (I read my fair share), he is the best. His writing ability is amazing. He turns a phrase better than most, and that in his academic stuff too. What is more, he speaks/lectures the way he writes, most deftly.

Lastly, his Christian Origins and the Question of God will be a hallmark to NT studies until Jesus returns. I can't wait to read his new volumes on Paul this fall (once I'm finished w/ my thesis).

he denies the fullierrancy of the scriptures, and he denies the traditional views on pauline justification, correct?

That calvin ans the reformers sicne that time have misreasd Paul, and he has the right way to understand him now?