Hope of Glory said:
It's specifically because I accept the literal account in Scripture, but reject the spin that man has added. It's because God's words will not permit an absolute 6 day creation of everything. It would contradict other Scriptures and make God a liar. How many contradictions are you willing to accept in Scriptures?
How many contradictions are you willing to accept?
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
What the Lord says, I believe. Here is a clear statement of a six day creation that can only be taken one way. Either you believe it or you don't. There is no allegory here. Each one of the Ten Commandments were absolutes. Or do we make an allegory out of "Thou shalt not kill," and "Thou shalt not steal?" These commands are not commands at all are they? They are just allegories, stories, myths, meant to convey some deeper meaning that we haven't discovered yet. With your method of interpretation you can make the Bible say anything you want. Maybe "Thou shalt not kill" means Thou shalt not kill except in Jihads or in Crusades. Then it is legitimate. So perhaps according to the Ten Commandments 9/11 was legitimate. Allegorize! Make something absolute say anything you want!
By supporting an absolute 6 day creation, you are calling God a liar.
By putting any other time frame on it, we are using intellect, and rejecting Scriptures. We're given a calendar of events that happened, but only a few specifics of when they happened. But, we do know the order.
By putting any other time frame on it, but six days you throw your brains out the window. God created the flowers on one day, and the bees on another day. The one cannot exist with the other. If they are thousands of years apart (day-age theory) life would cease to exist. Life doesn't exist without the sun. A thousand year day would imply a thousand year night. The whole thing is ludicrous.
The gap theory is just as messed up. It denies many of the facts of the Word, that have already been established.
"For as by one man sin entered into the world and
death by sin so that all have sinned."
There was no death before Adam, as the Gap theorists believe and would have us to believe. The Scripture plainly says that it was by Adam that sin entered the world. There was no sin and no death before Adam. The Gap Theory contradicts the Word of God. There also is no mention of it in the NT--a monumental event for the NT authors to be silent about if it were indeed true.
God does not say when the "beginning" was, just that it simply was.
Do you instruct God? Are you his counsellor? (Rom.11:33ff.) Does he have to say when that "beginning" was.
God does not say what method he used to create man when he spoke him into existence. I reject theistic evolution, but the Scriptures don't prohibit such.
Yes he does. He spoke the worlds into existence. It was by the word of his power. He spoke and it was done.
God does not say how long the earth existed before Genesis 1:2, but he does say that it existed and there was stuff here.
You misread a very simple account. Verse one gives a summary statement of what is to follow. Then from verse two and following gives the method of the creation. There is no gap.
AiG tries to twist things using a pseudo science into saying that fossils could not be more than 6,000 years old (although some say 10,000 and I have no idea where they get that number), when Scriptures don't support any such notion. Maybe God is a sneaky little trickster and things are as they say, but I don't think so.
I don't know much about AiG. But I do know what I have personally studied. The 6,000 years traditionally comes from Archbiship Ussher, who added up all the genealogies in the Bible and came up with a creation date of 4,004 B.C. This was accepted by most conservatives for many centuries. More recently some have accepted that there may be some gaps in those geneologies. They also have accepted that there may be some other reasons that the date may be pushed back as much as another four thousand years. But in no way can it be pushed back millions or billions of years. Even accounting for every possible mistake in the geneological record there is no way that one could arrive at millions and millions of years old.
Have you ever considered that God created the world with the appearance of age, so that even if man could find a parcel of this earth that was still in existence at the time of Adam and Eve, it would inevitably look much older than it really is.
Have you considered what effect the Flood had upon this earth, also giving the earth an appearance of age, and the subsequent ice age that followed the Flood as a result of the climactic changes.
I think that we as man try to use our intellect to make things fit a preconceived idea that we fail to use intellect to look at.
Where Scriptures are silent, we should remain silent doctrinally.
Have you considered that God gave us an intellect to use. If you are silent where the Scriptures are silent, then in no way would you even consider the Gap Theory.
