Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I was been a manager of engineers with MS's and PhD's (12 years). I know that with limited resources, you have to prioritize them. There is no comparison between the so-called immigrant emergency and the looming cyber-attack crisis.

It would be better if you refrained from being so personal about your expertise. It only presents strong temptation, for example, saying things like, "Scott Adams really has people like you pegged," and I wouldn't want to give in to such. Because of the implications, your claimed experience compared with what you offer as evidence and argument is scarier than anything else you have said so far.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

And citizens who have hired illegal immigrants will ALL be prosecuted.

That's a possibility, but start with the most egregious, and especially with those defiantly legislating sanctuary or defending such.

 

[Adonia]

If the number of illegal immigrants is at a 12-year low, how can you define that as "a national emergency?"

Have you seen any of the video or pictures of people storming our southern border? The Border Patrol people have been completely overwhelmed and they have said as much. The amount of drugs coming into the country via the southern border is off the charts and americans are dying in the hundreds. Yes Virginia, there is indeed an emergency situation at the southern border.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Of course resources are limited--only Climate Change and Green New Deal proponents and other Progressives would imagine otherwise.

A supposed cyber-attack would be scary indeed, not because of the possibility, but because of the realization that bringing it up as a crisis only now would mean that for decades morons have been managed by imbeciles supervised by idiots in charge of our cyber-security. It may be true, but not something I really want to contemplate. If it is true, not even Trump could deliver us from such a debacle.

The internet had its origin in ARPANET, built to connect national supercomputing centers at several universities and provided interconnectivity in 1986 with the NSFNET project, which also created network access to the supercomputer sites in the United States from research and education organizations. ARPA stands for the Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency. Concepts had been tested for this kind of a network since the mid-60's however.

Therefore the early network was controlled by the U.S. military. The open internet essentially began in about 1980.

The internet is not controlled by anyone except the Internet Engineering Task Force which sets agreed-upon standards.
In May 2000, the Internet Engineering Task Force defined attack in RFC 2828 as:[6]
an assault on system security that derives from an intelligent threat, i.e., an intelligent act that is a deliberate attempt (especially in the sense of a method or technique) to evade security services and violate the security policy of a system.
I would say then that official recognition of the danger of cyberattacks began around 2000. Responsibility for defending against cybercrime and cyber attacks rests both with the government and private enterprise. Cyberattack - Wikipedia

Investment in cyber war started around 2006. Today (2012 in this article) several intelligence studies claim that more than 140 countries have a cyber weapon development program. One example is the $110 million US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) dubbed “Plan X” (2012). Its goal is to harness computing power to help the US wage war more effectively (for example,.achieving kinetic effects). Plan X is part of a larger DARPA effort to create breakthrough offensive and defensive cyber-capabilities. Cyber-defense spending in the U.S. has steadily increased from $27.4 B in 2010 to $66 B in 2018.

Private corporations have their own budgets to prevent cybercrime. I have a friend at church who works in cyber-security for the Southern Corp.

Personally, I think we have a need to publicly recognize cyber-warfare as a critical security issue on the order of nuclear warfare. We need more funding for the government and private sectors to combat it. We also need a coordinated defense between the public and private sectors as well as educating more engineers and computer scientists in this area to join the defense.

 

[FollowTheWay]

That's a possibility, but start with the most egregious, and especially with those defiantly legislating sanctuary or defending such.

Everyone who provides a job to an undocumented immigrant is breaking the law and contributes to the problem. Undocumented immigrants wouldn't come here or stay here if these people didn't give them a job. If we start putting our neighbors who hire aliens to do their yard work or clean their pool in jail others will get the word quickly that we're serious about enforcing the law.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

The internet had its origin in ARPANET, built to connect national supercomputing centers at several universities and provided interconnectivity in 1986 with the NSFNET project, which also created network access to the supercomputer sites in the United States from research and education organizations. ARPA stands for the Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency. Concepts had been tested for this kind of a network since the mid-60's however.

Therefore the early network was controlled by the U.S. military. The open internet essentially began in about 1980.

The internet is not controlled by anyone except the Internet Engineering Task Force which sets agreed-upon standards.
In May 2000, the Internet Engineering Task Force defined attack in RFC 2828 as:[6]
an assault on system security that derives from an intelligent threat, i.e., an intelligent act that is a deliberate attempt (especially in the sense of a method or technique) to evade security services and violate the security policy of a system.
I would say then that official recognition of the danger of cyberattacks began around 2000. Responsibility for defending against cybercrime and cyber attacks rests both with the government and private enterprise. Cyberattack - Wikipedia

Investment in cyber war started around 2006. Today (2012 in this article) several intelligence studies claim that more than 140 countries have a cyber weapon development program. One example is the $110 million US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) dubbed “Plan X” (2012). Its goal is to harness computing power to help the US wage war more effectively (for example,.achieving kinetic effects). Plan X is part of a larger DARPA effort to create breakthrough offensive and defensive cyber-capabilities. Cyber-defense spending in the U.S. has steadily increased from $27.4 B in 2010 to $66 B in 2018.

Private corporations have their own budgets to prevent cybercrime. I have a friend at church who works in cyber-security for the Southern Corp.

Personally, I think we have a need to publicly recognize cyber-warfare as a critical security issue on the order of nuclear warfare. We need more funding for the government and private sectors to combat it. We also need a coordinated defense between the public and private sectors as well as educating more engineers and computer scientists in this area to join the defense.

Given all of the virus and hacking incidents, if those in charge of government programs don’t understand human nature and especially the nature of political enemies well enough to be out in front regarding any potential problems, then there is no real hope and never can be.

The only hope is that this is disinformation, misinformation--an imagined crisis to deceive the enemy, that in fact they not only are keenly aware of the situation, but have already developed first-strike and defense capabilities and are constantly updating.

I do not claim they are competent or that the US has not been sold out, but that is the reality.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Everyone who provides a job to an undocumented immigrant is breaking the law and contributes to the problem. Undocumented immigrants wouldn't come here or stay here if these people didn't give them a job. If we start putting our neighbors who hire aliens to do their yard work or clean their pool in jail others will get the word quickly that we're serious about enforcing the law.

But there are those who are luring them here in droves (caravans) by financing them, by creating sanctuaries, by providing legal help to beat the border system, etc. Those are the ones most culpable and need to be taken down first, and bigtime.

 

[FollowTheWay]

It would be better if you refrained from being so personal about your expertise. It only presents strong temptation, for example, saying things like, "Scott Adams really has people like you pegged," and I wouldn't want to give in to such. Because of the implications, your claimed experience compared with what you offer as evidence and argument is scarier than anything else you have said so far.

Don't post personal attacks on me and I won'[t have to respond as I did.

" If you know anything about management, teamwork, or even getting an education"

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Don't post personal attacks on me and I won'[t have to respond as I did.
" If you know anything about management, teamwork, or even getting an education"

Okay, you have a point, though it wasn’t really meant as a personal attack per se, but rather as a call to stay on topic and not try to distract with non sequiturs. I was sure you had enough understanding to get my point, just reminding you of it.

 

[kyredneck]

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Anti-Trump congressman comes out in support of president's emergency declaration

"...Rep. Adam Kinzinger, recently returned from deployment at the border with his Air National Guard unit, says that what he saw convinced him that the president is right to make the emergency declaration.

The Hill:

"I went down there kind of undecided," Kinzinger said on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

"I think if this was just an issue of immigration it wouldn't constitute a national emergency," he added. "But what I saw was really disturbing."

He recounted witnessing a woman "hunkered down in the desert" after the individuals who brought her across the border abandoned her, as well as another instance where his unit found 70 pounds of methamphetamine being transported into the country.

Kinzinger acknowledged that government statistics show border apprehensions are at the lowest levels in decades, but said what he saw firsthand showed drugs and human trafficking pose a significant problem.

As a result, Kinzinger said he won't vote to block President Trump's national emergency declaration to secure funds that have not been congressionally appropriated for his long-desired wall along the southern border.

"I wish this would've happened a different way," he said, but added that he believes Trump has the authority to declare an emergency.

"If this was just about immigration I would disagree," he said. "I do think this is a security threat. It's a security threat with the amount of drugs coming over the border and the human trafficking that I've seen."..."

 

[Yeshua1]

They did because Trump's people furnished them with the forged documents.

Do you agree with post # 14?

 

[FollowTheWay]

Do you agree with post # 14?

That's like asking whether I think there should be zero murders in America. Sure at zero cost. I think the funds required to reduce the number of illegal immigrants to zero could be better spent on other things. One of the most important I think is cyber-security.

 

[Yeshua1]

That's like asking whether I think there should be zero murders in America. Sure at zero cost. I think the funds required to reduce the number of illegal immigrants to zero could be better spent on other things. One of the most important I think is cyber-security.

A wall would go a long way towards zero!

 

[FollowTheWay]

A wall would go a long way towards zero!

No way.

 

[Yeshua1]

Which is more important to you, a wall or greatly improved cyber-security?

Wall

 

[FollowTheWay]

Wall

We've been lucky so far. Our elections have been tampered with and Russia has acted to divide America. Some people have experienced identity theft or cyber crime. A real cyber-attack could take down the electric power grid, the communications networks and take your money out of the bank. Want to change your answer?

 

[FollowTheWay]

We've been lucky so far. Our elections have been tampered with and Russia has acted to divide America. Some people have experienced identity theft or cyber crime. A real cyber-attack could take down the electric power grid, the communications networks and take your money out of the bank. Want to change your answer?

Communications disruptions would extend to the military and police. No 9/11 services. No effective military. No police protection.