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Obama and Islam

matt wade

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I never said you were a democrat However, criticizing the Republican Party for opposing the "slaughter of the innocents" and "homosexual marriage" is strange coming from a registered Republican.

He said "The same could be said about Republicans" ....how is that criticizing?
 

go2church

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I never said you were a democrat However, criticizing the Republican Party for opposing the "slaughter of the innocents" and "homosexual marriage" is strange coming from a registered Republican.


Proves my point!

Are you really this thick or just playing around?

My point was that Republicans say the same things Democrats do about Islam, criticize the extremist, fundamentalists elements of Islam, but "play nice" otherwise. To make statements that only Democrats hate freedom of conscience is ridiculous and laughable when both parties operates do the same thing.

Along the freedom line of thinking, it could be argued that outlawing same sex marriage or abortion is also a violation of freedom of conscience. You getting this, am I going to fast for you? That isn't to say I agree with points of view, but highlighted in order to show the ridiculous nature of the Democrats hate freedom conscience statement.

You saw the words abortion and same sex marriage and drew conclusions that were not only inaccurate, but also served to further the ridiculous nature of the original post, so thanks for that.
 

OldRegular

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Are you really this thick or just playing around?

My point was that Republicans say the same things Democrats do about Islam, criticize the extremist, fundamentalists elements of Islam, but "play nice" otherwise. To make statements that only Democrats hate freedom of conscience is ridiculous and laughable when both parties operates do the same thing.

Along the freedom line of thinking, it could be argued that outlawing same sex marriage or abortion is also a violation of freedom of conscience. You getting this, am I going to fast for you? That isn't to say I agree with points of view, but highlighted in order to show the ridiculous nature of the Democrats hate freedom conscience statement.

You saw the words abortion and same sex marriage and drew conclusions that were not only inaccurate, but also served to further the ridiculous nature of the original post, so thanks for that.

Follosing is your post to which I responded:

Republicans are saying the same things about Islam. Islam is fine as long as it isn't radical, extreme or fundamentalist, not just a Democrat way of speaking.

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable. The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion. It is much to broad a concept to just wash over with nonsensical statements like that.

You are saying the Republicans "despise freedom of conscience" because they oppose gay {Homosexual} marriage and abortion [The slaughter of the innocents}. I responded appropriately as follows:

So you favor the slaughter of the unborn {55 million and counting} and the corruption of marriage by sexual perverts?

Since when is the slaughter of the unborn a matter of conscience? In my opinion those who support this slaughter are without conscience.

Since when is marriage as the union of a man and woman a matter of conscience. Those who support giving the label marriage to the practice of sexual perversion are agents of immorality.

You apparently are unable to comprehend what you post! Now pretend to be pious and go to church this Sunday!
 

matt wade

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Thanks Much Rev! Apparently go2 doesn't understand that there is no freedom of conscience to murder, especially the unborn.

Is it your opinion that murdering the unborn is a higher crime than murdering an adult?

What is your opinion of the murders that took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
 

Sapper Woody

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Is it your opinion that murdering the unborn is a higher crime than murdering an adult?
It is mine, yes.





What is your opinion of the murders that took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


My opinion is that it was an atrocity that was horrible. But I'm glad it happened. It's been shown that an exponential amount of lives were saved by the killing of the bombs.



Was it right? The jury's out. Was it justified? Absolutely. I've said before that if an innocent was a hostage, and the only way to stop a killer was to kill the innocent, I'd take the shot. I wouldn't like it, and I would hate that I had to do it. But I'd do it.
 

matt wade

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It is mine, yes.

Then you perpetrate the view that pro-lifers care more for people in a womb than outside it.


My opinion is that it was an atrocity that was horrible. But I'm glad it happened. It's been shown that an exponential amount of lives were saved by the killing of the bombs.

Was it right? The jury's out. Was it justified? Absolutely. I've said before that if an innocent was a hostage, and the only way to stop a killer was to kill the innocent, I'd take the shot. I wouldn't like it, and I would hate that I had to do it. But I'd do it.

No comment. I have nothing nice to say and I can only get infractioned/banned.
 

OldRegular

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Is it your opinion that murdering the unborn is a higher crime than murdering an adult?
Much worse! There may be cause for killing an adult. There is none for murdering an unborn child.

What is your opinion of the murders that took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Same as the fire bombing of Tokyo except bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasak saved millions of lives both American and Japanese.
 
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matt wade

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Yeah, it's terrible if someone is against abortion and also believes that adult lives are valued in the same way. Someone thinking that way must be a liberal! A true republican would care more about those babies!
 

Sapper Woody

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Yeah, it's terrible if someone is against abortion and also believes that adult lives are valued in the same way. Someone thinking that way must be a liberal! A true republican would care more about those babies!



Matt, you're blowing smoke. Let me put it this way. Does lying one time send you to hell? Yes. Does rape send you to hell? Yes. But which is worse? Rape.



Is killing the unborn wrong? Yes. Is killing adults wrong? Yes. Both are equally wrong. But which is the bigger atrocity? In my mind, killing the unborn.
 

go2church

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Follosing is your post to which I responded:



You are saying the Republicans "despise freedom of conscience" because they oppose gay {Homosexual} marriage and abortion [The slaughter of the innocents}. I responded appropriately as follows:



You apparently are unable to comprehend what you post! Now pretend to be pious and go to church this Sunday!

Nope, I guess you aren't playing thick.
 

go2church

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Thanks Much Rev! Apparently go2 doesn't understand that there is no freedom of conscience to murder, especially the unborn.

No, you don't understand basic "if you say this than someone could say this" using the same line of thinking.

Now I know you want to say "that shouldn't apply in this case, that's wrong". This highlights the flaw in the original statement. Your focusing on the error in the second statement seemingly not realizing that the error is rooted in the first.
 

OldRegular

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No, you don't understand basic "if you say this than someone could say this" using the same line of thinking.

Now I know you want to say "that shouldn't apply in this case, that's wrong". This highlights the flaw in the original statement. Your focusing on the error in the second statement seemingly not realizing that the error is rooted in the first.

If you say so brown eyes!
 

OldRegular

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Obama vs. Cameron: British PM takes hard line on ‘Islamist’ extremists, Obama avoids I-word
Published January 16, 2015FoxNews.com

"Poisonous ideology."

"Radical, death cult of a narrative."

British Prime Minister David Cameron was unsparing in his condemnation of Islamist terrorists on Friday, as he stood beside President Obama in the White House.

Like French officials last week following the deadly attacks in Paris, the PM bluntly described the problem as a "very serious Islamist extremist terrorist threat."

Obama? The U.S. president stayed the rhetorical course.

Despite the increasingly tough rhetoric from Cameron, French President Francois Hollande and others, Obama continued to describe the enemy as "violent extremism" and "violent terrorism" -- even "nihilism."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...st-extremists-obama-avoids/?intcmp=latestnews
 
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