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Obama inviting 'invasion of murderers, gang members
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Magnetic Poles
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Carpro proves himself a liar. Did he not read where I said I do not agree with the president on everything? One big problem with the president, which I have and critical of before, is the fact that he has not issued one more executive order... That being one to immediately halt all warrantless spying on Americans by the NSA.
As to RD2's points, he has been drinking the kool-aid. Most are trumped up talking points. there are plenty of things to criticize President Obama about without resorting to falsehoods and stretching the truth.
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That would put an end to his ability to keep an eye on his enemies -- both outside and inside the U.S. Why do you think he so grossly expanded the Bush program, which was designed solely for the purpose of tracking terrorists overseas calling into the U.S.? Why do you suppose he started spying on Angela Merkel's private cell phone? Tony Blair's office? Mariano Rajoy Brey's travels and meetings? Personal entertainment?
Magnetic Poles
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RD2, I have not the physical strength right now to get into a long back and forth, but I will quickly hit your points one at a time:
The IRS scandal?
Not sure there is anything there, but it is being investigated.
Failure of the VA?
No POTUS gets into the day-to-day administration of agencies such as the VA. It is a huge problem, but not on the President's desk unless there is a royal screw up at lower pay grades...which there was.
The many problems [that are still ongoing] surround Obamacare?
It isn't perfect, but with millions of Americans now getting insurance for the first time, it is doing some good. And a biggie...If you get sick, you can't be kicked off your insurance when you need it the most. Big win! I would prefer we get to a single payer system, but that is not politically feasible right now. Maybe someday. The ACA is NOT a government takeover of healthcare. It is really insurance reform, which is sorely needed.
The way he allowed four men to die in the Benghazi Embassey?
Not sure what the POTUS could have done here. It is tragic, but the real issue is the GOP trying to make political points off the deaths of our brave, American diplomats. This was an uprising in a hostile land. There are risks. Maybe if the GOP had not cut funding for securing our foreign outposts, things may have been different. Then again, maybe not.
How he is handling Putin's revived energy to take back the old mother Russia?
What would you have him do? Start a shooting war with the Russians? Sanctions are the first step. Military intervention is not something the American People are wanting.
All the hope and change he's brought to the poor by handing out everything from free phones to text on, to no jobs capable of supporting families?
Talk to your GOP Congressional delegation who cannot pass a jobs bill and have nothing to proffer of their own.
Back stabbing Israel?
No idea what you are referring to, but remember Israel is not the U.S. and their interests are not always ours. We do not have to support them lockstep.
Releasing five terrorists for one AWOL, enemy collaborating deserter?
As Mr. Bergdahl is back on active duty, not sure you are correct. But remember, we leave no soldier behind. Period.
Not lifting a finger to get a marine out of a Mexican prison?
Not sure this is a true statement. I suspect not. Again, what would you suggest?
Allowing thousands and thousands of young people t flood our borders, while he prepares to circumvent the Congress and American people by signing an executive order making these border jumpers legal citizens? I don't see where he is proposing making the refugee children "citizens". I do believe we have a humanitarian duty to protect kids from being killed and raped in their home countries.
The IRS scandal?
Not sure there is anything there, but it is being investigated.
Failure of the VA?
No POTUS gets into the day-to-day administration of agencies such as the VA. It is a huge problem, but not on the President's desk unless there is a royal screw up at lower pay grades...which there was.
The many problems [that are still ongoing] surround Obamacare?
It isn't perfect, but with millions of Americans now getting insurance for the first time, it is doing some good. And a biggie...If you get sick, you can't be kicked off your insurance when you need it the most. Big win! I would prefer we get to a single payer system, but that is not politically feasible right now. Maybe someday. The ACA is NOT a government takeover of healthcare. It is really insurance reform, which is sorely needed.
The way he allowed four men to die in the Benghazi Embassey?
Not sure what the POTUS could have done here. It is tragic, but the real issue is the GOP trying to make political points off the deaths of our brave, American diplomats. This was an uprising in a hostile land. There are risks. Maybe if the GOP had not cut funding for securing our foreign outposts, things may have been different. Then again, maybe not.
How he is handling Putin's revived energy to take back the old mother Russia?
What would you have him do? Start a shooting war with the Russians? Sanctions are the first step. Military intervention is not something the American People are wanting.
All the hope and change he's brought to the poor by handing out everything from free phones to text on, to no jobs capable of supporting families?
Talk to your GOP Congressional delegation who cannot pass a jobs bill and have nothing to proffer of their own.
Back stabbing Israel?
No idea what you are referring to, but remember Israel is not the U.S. and their interests are not always ours. We do not have to support them lockstep.
Releasing five terrorists for one AWOL, enemy collaborating deserter?
As Mr. Bergdahl is back on active duty, not sure you are correct. But remember, we leave no soldier behind. Period.
Not lifting a finger to get a marine out of a Mexican prison?
Not sure this is a true statement. I suspect not. Again, what would you suggest?
Allowing thousands and thousands of young people t flood our borders, while he prepares to circumvent the Congress and American people by signing an executive order making these border jumpers legal citizens? I don't see where he is proposing making the refugee children "citizens". I do believe we have a humanitarian duty to protect kids from being killed and raped in their home countries.
Lois Lerner resigned over it. I'm sure there's a scandal there.
This pre-dates Bush, and can be used as an excellent argument against the ACA.
Tsk tsk. You know millions have lost their insurance they liked and the doctors they liked, business are now saddled with birth control funding that should NEVEr be any of their concern, democrats are running away from it, it is EXTREMELY unpopular, and if the dens lose the senate you can look right at that single piece of legislation.
Actually, it was an incompetent administration that he installed, that ignored the pleas for help. Then to send out people to lie and blame a video is especially egregious.
Another one that pre-dates Obama, but his party brokered the deal that he refused to honor.
Hah !!! here's a list of "jobs" bills passed by the HOR and sit in the Senate…yet to be voted on.
http://kelly.house.gov/sites/kelly.house.gov/files/documents/Jobs.PDF
I'm not an Israel, right or wrong guy, but John Kerry is really showing himself to be in way over his head. he was appointed by Obama.
Not sure he isn't correct, either.
His name is Andrew Tahmooressi. And I would suggest Obama works as hard to get him out of jail as he possibly can. Huge P.R. win for him. and it's the right thing to do.
Including invading a country ?
With world population around 7 billion, and the median age in the developing world at 24.3 years [http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question57160.html], how many of the world's 'kids' (under 18?) are in locales where they are in danger of being killed or raped? Quite likely => 1 billion, or 3x our current population. [In truth, are there any kids anywhere such endangerment is genuinely not the case?] Do we have a 'humanitarian duty' to protect them all?