Obama Pretends we are not at War

[carpro]

"As I’ve watched the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. He seems to think if he has a low-key response to an attempt to blow up an airliner and kill hundreds of people, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if we bring the mastermind of Sept. 11 to New York, give him a lawyer and trial in civilian court, we won’t be at war.

“He seems to think if he closes Guantanamo and releases the hard-core Al Qaeda-trained terrorists still there, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gets rid of the words, ‘war on terror,’ we won’t be at war. But we are at war and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31054.html#ixzz0bBiUMbXO

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Although Cheney and other Republicans have accused Obama of a muted response to the attack, President George W. Bush was quieter for much longer about the attack by shoe bomber Richard Reid in December 2001.

Obama went before cameras on Monday, the third day after the fizzled bomb attempt.

It was six days after Reid's attempted attack that Bush finally discussed the incident,

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31054_Page2.html#ixzz0bCP9THSJ

Obama's doing better than Bush. Former (Vice) President Cheney seems to misunderstand the nature of constitutional rights. They apply in all criminal prosecutions in the United States. It's sad that Dick Cheney and the rest of the connies are willing to play politics with justice and our national security.

 

[carpro]

" If I’m reaching out to the Muslim world, they understand that I’ve lived in a Muslim country and I may be a Christian, but I also can understand their point of view. …

Barak Obama

Sucking up to islamofascists hasn't worked out for the liar-in-chief real well so far.

They are still at war with us. 911 was a result of Clinton's refusal to recognize that war when he saw it.

Obama is repeating that mistake. The only real question is when, how, and how many Americans will die to pay for his blindness.

 

[Revmitchell]

Obama's doing better than Bush.

 

[carpro]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/12/kristol_obama_can_still_design.asp

Obama fundamentally altered the culture and risk-taking incentives of the intelligence community with policy and personnel changes. The sense of urgency is gone, and he's made it uncool to call the war on terror a war at all. If he wants to treat terrorism like a criminal act, rather than an act of war, we should not be surprised when the results look a lot like the bureaucratic foul-ups that happen all the time in law enforcement. He gutted the Homeland Security Council coordinating role, he diluted the focus of the daily intel brief, he made CIA officials worry more about being prosecuted for doing their jobs than capturing terrorists. He's so worried about the political consequences to his administration of a terrorist attack on our home soil that he denies the obvious -- that Major Hasan is a jihadist terrorist -- and he wants to shut down GITMO and bring terrorists here. He's made it his business to turn much of the national security apparatus set up by Bush and Cheney upside down and has succeeded....

 

[just-want-peace]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/12/kristol_obama_can_still_design.asp

Obama fundamentally altered the culture and risk-taking incentives of the intelligence community with policy and personnel changes. The sense of urgency is gone, and he's made it uncool to call the war on terror a war at all. If he wants to treat terrorism like a criminal act, rather than an act of war, we should not be surprised when the results look a lot like the bureaucratic foul-ups that happen all the time in law enforcement. He gutted the Homeland Security Council coordinating role, he diluted the focus of the daily intel brief, he made CIA officials worry more about being prosecuted for doing their jobs than capturing terrorists. He's so worried about the political consequences to his administration of a terrorist attack on our home soil that he denies the obvious -- that Major Hasan is a jihadist terrorist -- and he wants to shut down GITMO and bring terrorists here. He's made it his business to turn much of the national security apparatus set up by Bush and Cheney upside down and has succeeded....

Paul3144 sez:

Obama's doing better than Bush.

Uh-----YEP!!!!?????:sleep:

 

[SolaSaint]

How much longer can Obama blame Bush for all his incompetence? Sure Bush didn't handle the country well over the past year or so, but at least he didn't sell us out to our enemies and bow at their feet. Obama is pretending to be the President, because he really doesn't know how to since it involves being true to the truths of our founding fathers and the Constitution. God help us.

 

[billwald]

With which foreign country are we at war?

 

[rbell]

Obama's doing better than Bush. Former (Vice) President Cheney seems to misunderstand the nature of constitutional rights. They apply in all criminal prosecutions in the United States. It's sad that Dick Cheney and the rest of the connies are willing to play politics with justice and our national security.

That is so factually wrong as to be ala-tide-ish.

Non-citizens should not get the rights afforded to citizens by the Constitution.

Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of our laws would get that.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Rbell, where is that in the Constitution?

 

[rbell]

Rbell, where is that in the Constitution?

Read the preamble.

Who do you think "we the people" are? Vulcans?

 

[billwald]

The preamble to the Constitution has no legal standing. It is not a part of the Constitution.

No one can tell me the nations we are at war with?

 

[carpro]

Dumb question.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

That is so factually wrong as to be ala-tide-ish.

Non-citizens should not get the rights afforded to citizens by the Constitution.

Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of our laws would get that.

You do realize that Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, received a civil trial under the Bush-Cheney regime.

 

[poncho]

Obama is merely downplaying the fact that we're in an "endless war" (to quote "Dick Cheney" or one of them other neocons). A war in which only the international bankers, MIC and Govcorp stand to make consistant gains.

Oh yeah we're at war alright.

Obama is sooooo, out of touch with the American people. :tear:

 

[righteousdude2]

Truth is: Obama DOES NOT Believe we are at War!

"As I’ve watched the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. He seems to think if he has a low-key response to an attempt to blow up an airliner and kill hundreds of people, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if we bring the mastermind of Sept. 11 to New York, give him a lawyer and trial in civilian court, we won’t be at war.

“He seems to think if he closes Guantanamo and releases the hard-core Al Qaeda-trained terrorists still there, we won’t be at war. He seems to think if he gets rid of the words, ‘war on terror,’ we won’t be at war. But we are at war and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31054.html#ixzz0bBiUMbXO

Obama isn't pretending, brother....he does not believe we are at war. He will not believe we are at war until the radical Muslims take the White House by force and demand they be allowed to spend a night, or, two, in the infamous Lincoln Room.:laugh:

Pastor Paul

 

[carpro]

You do realize that Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, received a civil trial under the Bush-Cheney regime.

There was no mechanism , such as military commissions to do anything else. The similarity ends there.

He wasn't tried at all. He plead guilty.

The perpetrator in this case has lawyered up and shut up.

Pure idiocy on the part of the Obama admistration.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

The perpetrator in this case has lawyered up and shut up.

Actually, the judge, the Honorable Paul D. Borman, appointed him a lawyer. The judge had no choice in that matter.

 

[carpro]

Actually, the judge, the Honorable Paul D. Borman, appointed him a lawyer. The judge had no choice in that matter.

It matters not how. All that matters is after being mirandized, he says the magic words... I want a lawyer.

Questioning over.

Idiocy.

 

[NiteShift]

No one can tell me the nations we are at war with?

Can you say which nations we are at war with in the current war on piracy? Or in the earlier war on piracy? Remember that Tripoli was not a nation but a city belonging to the Ottoman Empire.