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Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs

abcgrad94

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This is very disturbing. It's siding with the Arabs against Israel, something many of us Christians completely disagree with doing.
 

Grasshopper

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Looks like WingNut is the only source that has this. Looks like more of their made up "news". Nothing to see here.

Must agree here, using worlddailynet as a source is no better than using mediamatters as a source. It's all spin.

Interesting though how ones eschatology drives ones Middle East policy.
 

Essene

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Israel

This is very disturbing. It's siding with the Arabs against Israel, something many of us Christians completely disagree with doing.

Israel is the biggest troublemaker in the Mid-East. The US needs to reim her in, and stop giving weapons and $3,000,000,000/year in aid. That's our tax dollars. June 8 is the anniversary of Israel blowing up the USS Liberty and killing 34 US sailors. With friends like that, who needs enemies.
 

sag38

Active Member
So, you have been drinking the latest media kool-aide. What would one expect from your average journalist? Yeah, the Palestinians are just innocent players in this whole deal lobbing rockets into civilian areas, strapping on bombs, blowing up innocent people, and killing school children, etc. Yep, Israel should just shut up and take it because they deserve it. If they would just dry and go away, then all would be alright in the world.
 

abcgrad94

Active Member
Israel is the biggest troublemaker in the Mid-East. The US needs to reim her in, and stop giving weapons and $3,000,000,000/year in aid. That's our tax dollars. June 8 is the anniversary of Israel blowing up the USS Liberty and killing 34 US sailors. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

Actually, the muslims are the biggest troublemakers in the Mid-East.

It's God's job to "rein in" Israel, not ours.
 

OldRegular

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'bho" is lighting a fuse in the Middle East. I am not one of those who believe that Israel is GOD's chosen but they will not go peacefully into that dark night like they did during the Holocaust. They do have nuclear bombs and Netanyahu is no wimp like "bho".
 

Scarlett O.

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Israel is the biggest troublemaker in the Mid-East. The US needs to reim her in, and stop giving weapons and $3,000,000,000/year in aid. That's our tax dollars. June 8 is the anniversary of Israel blowing up the USS Liberty and killing 34 US sailors. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

Go to www.nsa.gov and do a seach for "attack of SIGINT collector, USS Liberty"

You will find a lot of now declassifed documents that explain that this attack was a tragic friendly fire event during the 1967 Six Day War.

The Israeli fighter planes thought they were attacking an Egyptian vessel.

When they realized what they had done, they contacted the US. An investigation was completed by both parties and while it was very controversial, both nations agreed that this was not a act of war, but a tragic accident caused by Israeli miscalculations and US miscommunications.

In May 1968, Israel paid $3,323,500 as full payment on behalf of the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969 Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980 Israel agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the U.S. claim of $7,644,146 for material damage to the Liberty itself.

To claim that Israel is the "biggest trouble maker in the Middle East" is not credible unless you can document it. Otherwise, it's just your opinion.

She isn't perfect. But neither are we.
 

RAdam

New Member
'bho" is lighting a fuse in the Middle East. I am not one of those who believe that Israel is GOD's chosen but they will not go peacefully into that dark night like they did during the Holocaust. They do have nuclear bombs and Netanyahu is no wimp like "bho".


I agree. I think many Christians err when they equate the modern man-made state of Israel with the God instituted nation of Israel from the OT. That doesn't mean I am against supporting Israel, but it isn't some Christian calling.

My big problem with this is the same as yours, it's like lighting a fuse to a huge bomb. The Middle East scenario is bad right now. This will only worsen it. The Israelis aren't going to back down and hand over Jerusalem. The Arabs hate the Israelis and want to wipe them out. Meanwhile the dumb ole USofA is making things worse.
 

LeBuick

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This is very disturbing. It's siding with the Arabs against Israel, something many of us Christians completely disagree with doing.

Uuhh, once should be disturbed from the fiction over at WND. You sure shouldn't be very disturbed. I've seen ore truth in fairy tails than I've seen over there...
 

LeBuick

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Actually, the muslims are the biggest troublemakers in the Mid-East.

It's God's job to "rein in" Israel, not ours.

You are grouping all Muslims into one statement. There are extremest Muslims just like there are extreme Christians that blow up abortion clinics. The extremist are the trouble makers. Most Muslims desire to be upstanding citizens and contributers to society.
 

Rippon

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There are extremest (sic)Muslims just like there are extreme Christians that blow up abortion clinics.

You mean "professing Christians." And the teeny-tiny number of folks who have blown up abortion clinics pales next to the large number of violent, murderous Muslims in the world. There is no comparison.
 

Crabtownboy

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The source of the story in the OP certainly likes to sensationalize a story. But I noticed the ad at the top of the page of that source and realized that it will never be non-biased in its reporting.

Here is a quote from the Jerusalem Post ...

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem when he called for Israel's capital to remain "undivided," his campaign told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.

Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.

But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes "Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties" as part of "an agreement that they both can live with.

"Two principles should apply to any outcome," which the adviser gave as: "Jerusalem remains Israel's capital and it's not going to be divided by barbed wire and checkpoints as it was in 1948-1967."

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...Full+obama+jerusalem&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
The US cannot impose a divided Jerusalem on anyone. It is and was obvious this would have to be negotiated.
 
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targus

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Uuhh, once should be disturbed from the fiction over at WND. You sure shouldn't be very disturbed. I've seen ore truth in fairy tails than I've seen over there...


Your words here are incomprehensible.

Will you please take the time to read what you have written before hitting submit?

You are making the rest of the Obama adulators look bad along with yourself.
 

LeBuick

New Member
You mean "professing Christians." And the teeny-tiny number of folks who have blown up abortion clinics pales next to the large number of violent, murderous Muslims in the world. There is no comparison.

Yes, professing Christians like white supremest, the KKK and others...

And I believe you're wrong, there is equally a teeny-tiny percentage of Muslims who've strapped a bomb to themselves or flown a plane into a building. The majority of Muslims want nothing to do with those terrorist which is evident by the number of Muslim's being favorable to Obama or even Bush' extended hand of friendship. We have millions of Muslim's living peaceably as law abiding citizens in this country.

To borrow from Obama, you are using a hatchet where a scalpel would work best...
 

LeBuick

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Your words here are incomprehensible.

Will you please take the time to read what you have written before hitting submit?

You are making the rest of the Obama adulators look bad along with yourself.

Have you seen any facts over at WMD? I sure haven't...

Take this article for example, http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613

The Obama BC case was sent to the high court and was not even heard. Why all this drama toward Obama, just about all of this article is simply not true and is written from the viewpoint of a conspiracy theorist or fear mongerer. It's fiction since it only raises questions and presents no real facts or solid basis for the questions. If it did, there would be more than 400K concerned citizens...
 
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