Obama Refuses to support Hong Kong democracy

[carpro]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...ng-s-democracy-Obama-Strongly-Condemns-Israel


WHILE REFUSING TO SUPPORT HONG KONG'S DEMOCRACY, OBAMA STRONGLY CONDEMNS ISRAEL


Hong Kong's pro-democracy demonstrators protesting China’s attempts to quash their rights to self government appear to be only the latest pro-Western group forsaken by the Obama administration. Meanwhile, its high volume criticism of Israel continues unabated.

First, Hong Kong. Protests in that former British colony have grown massively since they started last Friday. The demonstrators-- and, if opinion polls are correct, also the overwhelming majority of Hong Kong People-- oppose the communist government in Beijing’s refusal to stand by provisions of the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration that spelled out the conditions under which Hong Kong would be governed after its return to China from Britain. Hong Kong’s constitution, or Basic Law negotiated as part of the of Joint Declaration, guarantees Hong Kong’s right to govern itself on all non-defense or foreign affairs matters through 2047.

Protestors claim that China reneged on that agreement in June when it announced that Beijing would decide which candidates would be permitted to run in the 2017 elections to pick the self governing city’s next Chief Executive thereby insuring it would have full control over all the candidates that seek that office.

As up to a quarter million protestors peaceably took to Hong Kong streets demanding freedom last weekend, neither President Obama nor any other senior administration official said anything at all. It wasn’t until Tuesday that the US consulate in Hong Kong got around to issuing its first statement and it sided not with the protestors or their freedom cause:

We do not take sides in the discussion of Hong Kong's political development, nor do we support any particular individuals or groups involved in it... We encourage all sides to refrain from actions that would further escalate tensions, to exercise restraint and to express views on (Hong Kong's) political development in a peaceful manner.

 

[carpro]

Is there a struggling democracy anywhere that the Obama administration will support?

 

[Use of Time]

Is there a struggling democracy anywhere that the Obama administration will support?

Exactly what action would you propose he take? Threaten China over a purely internal matter? Nice spin by the way. You make it sound like he turned someone down when all he really said is that we are staying out of it. Let the grown ups make the decisions so we can avoid World War 3 okay. Thanks.

 

[righteousdude2]

Hong Kong is a hopeless cause. China will do to these citizens what they did in the Time-to-die Square.

Besides, it would be stupid to anger the country who pays our bills; hacks our cyber space secrets; and treats its comrades worse than we treated slaves, gays, women, illegals and the Indians, from whom we stole this country and banned to reservations. And where in this world would Obama get money to jet set around the world while a large portion of Americans struggle to keep a roof over their head and food to feed their families?

 

[carpro]

Exactly what action would you propose he take?

A statement in support of Hong Kong and democracy would be good.

 

[carpro]

Hong Kong is a hopeless cause. China will do to these citizens what they did in the Time-to-die Square.

Besides, it would be stupid to anger the country who pays our bills; hacks our cyber space secrets; and treats its comrades worse than we treated slaves, gays, women, illegals and the Indians, from whom we stole this country and banned to reservations. And where in this world would Obama get money to jet set around the world while a large portion of Americans struggle to keep a roof over their head and food to feed their families?

When we stop supporting our democratic ideals without a word, we are truly lost.

 

[Use of Time]

When we stop supporting our democratic ideals without a word, we are truly lost.

Make a statement? :laugh:

Supporting our ideals in our own country is one thing, trying to enforce them across the globe is the epitome of arrogance and it has historically turned out badly for us.

 

[carpro]

Make a statement? :laugh:

Supporting our ideals in our own country is one thing, trying to enforce them across the globe is the epitome of arrogance and it has historically turned out badly for us.

OK I understand.

You don't believe we should support our democratic ideals even with words.

I got it. There are a lot of people like you. People who like what they have, but don't want to share it...not even with a word. Afraid of their own shadow. Selfish to a fault. That's what will eventually bring this country down.

 

[Use of Time]

OK I understand.

You don't believe we should support our democratic ideals even with words.

I got it. There are a lot of people like you. People who like what they have, but don't want to share it...not even with a word. Afraid of their own shadow. Selfish to a fault. That's what will eventually bring this country down.

Oh please. That isn't even what we are talking about. You foolishly are implying that we should somehow meddle in Chinese politics while somehow trying to make this an Obama thing (because you are unhealthily obsessed with him). All the other stupid stuff about me not wanting to share democracy like it was the gospel or something makes no sense whatsoever. Why are you saying I'm afraid of my shadow, why do you think I'm selfish? Because I keep my democracy to myself? What does that even mean? You've really lost it.

I can see you now standing on a street corner asking passerby's if they've "heard the good news about democracy today."

 

[carpro]

Oh please. ."

If you say so.

 

[Revmitchell]

I will tell you what Obama should do. He should do exactly the opposite of what ever is n his head to do.

 

[poncho]

Protesters of the “Occupy Central” movement in Hong Kong shout familiar slogans and adopt familiar tactics seen across the globe as part of the United States’ immense political destabilization and regime change enterprise. Identifying the leaders, following the money, and examining Western coverage of these events reveal with certainty that yet again, Washington and Wall Street are busy at work to make China’s island of Hong Kong as difficult to govern for Beijing as possible.

Naming Names: Who is Behind “Occupy Central?”

Read More At: http://journal-neo.org/2014/10/01/hong-kong-s-occupy-central-is-us-backed-sedition/

“Occupy Central” is just one of many ongoing gambits the US is running against Beijing. A visit to the US NED site reveals not one, but four pages dedicated to meddling in China’s internal politics. NED’s activities are divided among China in general, Tibet, Xinjiang - referred to as “East Turkistan” as it is called by violent separatists the US backs - and Hong Kong. All of NED’s funding goes to politically subversive groups aligned to and dependent on the West, while being hostile toward Beijing. They range from “monitoring” and “media” organizations, to political parties as well as fronts for violent extremists. And as impressive as this network of political subversion is, it itself is still but a single part of a greater geopolitical agenda to encircle, contain, and eventually collapse the political order of Beijing and replace it with one favorable to Wall Street and Washington.

 

[Use of Time]

I will tell you what Obama should do. He should do exactly the opposite of what ever is n his head to do.

So by opposite do you intend for us to go full bore into China and meddle in their internal affairs. Brilliant analysis.