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Obama smack-down

Tom Bryant

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Pretty much.



What direction should he be trying to take the country? What direction do you think he's trying to take the country?


I didn't say it was in the Constitution.



And how do we conclude this from EOs without concluding the same thing about every President before him who has utilized the EO more?



Nice try but i didn't say I was okay with anything. I just want to know the real reason behind you and others and all these dictator claims when I didn't hear anything like this when other Presidents have done the same.

As I said, we are not going to agree. But I have read what you have written. So I know you are okay with his direction.

In terms of the direction he is taking the country, I would say he has moved towards a government controlled health care, the internet and the media. He has allowed his Attorney General to send arms to our enemies in the drug countries. He has allowed the trade of 5 terrorists for 1 deserter. He said he would run a government that was transparent and even his friends in the media have laughed at that idea.

I think the Republicans are just the opposite side of the same corrupt coin, so save the comments about the Republicans are just as bad. There has to be a total housecleaning.
 

OldRegular

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Oh, I think that Hillary is tired and sick but Bill is forcing her to run. Do you think that blacks will turn out for Hill they way they did for Obam@? (Hillary won't get any GOP votes--the GOP does not like the Clintons and thinks that they are crooks.)

They are crooks. She spent 4 years and flew 1,000,000 miles at taxpayer expense as the "bag lady" for Bill's organization.
 

OldRegular

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Because nothing has changed. The Republicans are so divided they cannot present a rational bill. They are so scared of the far right wing they cannot do what needs to be done to help all Americans.

So, Obama's statement is as appropriate today as it was in 2014 ... maybe more so.

This from an irrational democrat and irrational professing Christian who condones the slaughter of the unborn child.
 

OldRegular

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He's utilizing the authority that CONGRESS has given to the Executive Branch. If they don't like it, then they should change it. But they won't because it would make it impossible for an elected GOP President to do the same things that Obama is doing.

He is doing the same thing that Presidents before him have done. So the question has to be asked why it is viewed as tyrannical and dictatorial with this President and not with others?

You are blind as a bat Zaac! No president has ever used executive order to do what Obama has done.
 

church mouse guy

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How about Bill?

Bill might be a good choice for VP. Since legally, husband and wife are one, Bill is going to be calling the shots anyway, as he already is.

It will be interesting to see who the Dems put in as VP. I can't imagine who it might be. Do you think that Hill would allow any VP candidate to express his own opinion on anything?
 

Zaac

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As I said, we are not going to agree. But I have read what you have written. So I know you are okay with his direction.

As with the majority on here, you don't know anything near about me that you think you know.

In terms of the direction he is taking the country, I would say he has moved towards a government controlled health care, the internet and the media.


So you don't like those things. Others do.

He has allowed his Attorney General to send arms to our enemies in the drug countries.

What does the AG have to do with arms?

He has allowed the trade of 5 terrorists for 1 deserter.

So? How does this affect what God's called you to do?
He said he would run a government that was transparent and even his friends in the media have laughed at that idea.

So again. He's a politician. They make and break campaign promises. Like you really believe other Presidents have been transparent.

I think the Republicans are just the opposite side of the same corrupt coin, so save the comments about the Republicans are just as bad. There has to be a total housecleaning.

Yep. But again it really ain't that big a deal in the grand scheme of eternity.
 

Crabtownboy

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No president has ever used executive order to do what Obama has done.

Silly statement. Also shows you know nothing about how other presidents have used executive orders. See the list below. There are thousands of others, of course. This is simply a sample.

The most famous executive order was the Emancipation Proclamation -- Lincoln

Others were:

Desegregation of the Armed Forces -- Truman

The New Deal -- Roosevelt

Creation of Indian reserrvations -- Grant

Numerous presidents have used executive orders to create jobs for friends and allies

Torch hunting banned in the Canal Zone -- Wilson

Gutted the Presidential Records Act -- Bush

Finessing the Geneva Conventions -- Bush [still classified so we do not know what it says]



 
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