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Obama to Military: Willing to Fire on U.S. Citizens?

kyredneck

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No sociopathic cold blooded killers to found in the military?

Initially, I took offense at this ignorant, stupid remark; but then I realized that, in accordance with Proverbs 26:5, it needed to be answered. So here's your answer:
No; they're all in Chicago.

Ah, the comment didn't come accross right, in no way was it intended to be derogatory toward the military.

IMO, proportionally wise, there are probably no more sociopathic cold blooded killers to found in the military than there are in law enforcement, or the medical profession, or the girl scouts.
 
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Crabtownboy

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"“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”
Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130125006-obama-litmus.html#wL0eb3ChsQidhQiV.99 "

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130125006-obama-litmus.html

I wonder who the military hero was mentioned in your post.

Billy Mitchell was involved in the use of the military against American civilians. The show of force was such that it succeeded without the airplanes using their machine guns or bombs, but I think there is no doubt that Mitchell and the men under him would have used both if it had been deemed necessary.

On September 1, DeHavilland DH-4B bombers, each equipped with front- and rear-mounted machine guns and carrying tear gas and fragmentation bombs, began the three hundred and twenty mile flight from Langley Field to Charleston. After spending the night at Roanoke, Virginia, the planes crossed over the Appalachians and by late afternoon, eleven had landed at Kanawha Field. Of the twenty-one planes requested, only seventeen were in proper condition and managed to take off from Langley Field. Two planes experienced mechanical difficulties at Roanoke and one crashed there on take-off. Another bomber experienced engine difficulty over West Virginia and crash-landed near Beckley, while two others became lost in dense fog and ended up landing in Mooresburg, Tennessee. Four additional aircraft, twin-engine "box-like Martin bombers," from Aberdeen, Maryland, were also ordered to Kanawha Field but only three survived the flight. The total number of army aircraft in West Virginia by September 2 stood at fourteen. The bombers and their crews became an instant hit with the local population who had never seen so many military aircraft at one time in one place. Although neither the DeHavillands or Martins ever used their armament, they performed several reconnaissance missions and enjoyed the unique distinction of being the first air unit to participate in an American civil disturbance. Mitchell subsequently boasted how the "`Mingo War' provided an excellent example of the potentialities of air power, that can go wherever there is air, no matter whether they be over water or land."

http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh50-1.html
 

Revmitchell

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"“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”
Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130125006-obama-litmus.html#wL0eb3ChsQidhQiV.99 "

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130125006-obama-litmus.html

I have been chewing on this and I am not ready to believe Obama is willing to go this far. I do see a potential for it to get there. But I am not willing to say that Obama is wanting to do this.
 
Ah, the comment didn't come accross right, in no way was it intended to be derogatory toward the military.

IMO, proportionally wise, there are probably no more sociopathic cold blooded killers to found in the military than there are in law enforcement, or the medical profession, or the girl scouts.
Sociopathic cold blooded killer girl scouts, whats not to love about that?

Seriously, we are not talking about individuals, but the military as a whole, I know what you mean.
 

Don

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Ah, the comment didn't come accross right, in no way was it intended to be derogatory toward the military.

IMO, proportionally wise, there are probably no more sociopathic cold blooded killers to found in the military than there are in law enforcement, or the medical profession, or the girl scouts.

Understood; and a rather harsh reaction on my part. Please forgive me.
 

Magnetic Poles

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The OP is baloney. However, it has happened, and under a Republican president.

Date: May 4, 1970
Place: Kent State University, Kent, Ohio
 

OldRegular

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I wonder who the military hero was mentioned in your post.

Billy Mitchell was involved in the use of the military against American civilians. The show of force was such that it succeeded without the airplanes using their machine guns or bombs, but I think there is no doubt that Mitchell and the men under him would have used both if it had been deemed necessary.


I hate to say that I have ever agreed with CTB but he may be correct on this.

I believe I mentioned the trouble in W.Va. between the miners and the mine owners when the UMW was organizing the mine workers on an earlier thread. There was a movie made of this conflict called "Matewan". I cannot attest to the truthfulness of either the movie or the articled referenced by CTB. I do know that there was a lot of violence in the effort of the UMW to organize the miners. I do know that the national guard was called out in W.Va. and ultimately the Army. It is my understanding that the miners would not fire on the army.

I do know that miners were generally treated worse than the slaves in the old south. The mines in the region where I lived were all operated by the union workers when I came along but there was still much violence back there. I have told of one family I knew.

There was an incident during WWII that caused some ill will toward the UMW. Unless you know something about the coal mines in the mountains you cannot appreciate the problem the miners faced. In order to get to the mine face where coal was being removed the miners had to ride the mine cars . It was impossible to walk to your worksite because the distance from floor to roof in the mines was in the neighborhood of 3-4 ft. Then of course there were the hot wires. Giving the mine owners the benefit of the doubt I will assume that to maximize production they did not haul the miners out when their shift was over. They were hauled out at the convenience of the operator which could be a matter of hours. The miners struck and the settlement was "portal to portal" pay. The mine workers were paid from the time they entered the mine until they left the mine entrance. Obviously the miners did not cool their heels for hours inside the mine. An example of where the mine owner shafting the miner backfired.

I am not anti union. I am not pro union. I believe that most of the unions leaders today are corrupt. But I have no illusions about many of the people who control the wealth in this country. Does anyone on this forum believe that a Wall Street banker making $30+million a years gives a tinker's dam about someone working for minimum wage or for that matter $30-$40 thousand per year.
 

Aaron

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The military was called in to defend citizens, not to coerce citizens to yield to tyranny.
 
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