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Obama would surrender after Iran atomic attack

Zaac

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And just who do you look to ZAAC? Your rhetoric sounds a lot like Al Sharpton!

Don't be mad just because your hypocrisy displays you looking at the same type of race pimps as your heroes as you point the finger at Blacks for doing.
 

OldRegular

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Don't be mad just because your hypocrisy displays you looking at the same type of race pimps as your heroes as you point the finger at Blacks for doing.

Your rambling diatribe makes no sense. It is incomplete but what there is is false. i have attempted to show you and others blacks who have accomplished something often rising above their circumstances and not blaming whites as you do!
 

church mouse guy

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1. Ward Churchill has said that the USA should be bombed with atomic bombs.

2. No one has said that Iran should be stopped from getting the atomic bomb and clearly the Democrats are not stopping Iran.

3. No one has denied that the USA is the prinicipal target of Iran, as Dr. Sowell has suggested. The Iranians have always said that Jerusalem would be the site of the first Iranian attack and then Paris.

4. There are already terrorist sleeper cells in the USA for many decades. The Muslim
Brotherhood, a Nazi-Islamic offshoot, has a rich foundation operating openly for 40 years in the USA.

5. The border is so wide-open that criminals, communists, and terrorists can just walk into the country.

6. The military is a hollow military and an atomic attack might mean that the entire world would declare war on us.

7. No one denies that Obama could surrender. His sympathies lie with Jeremiah Wright.

8. It is unclear if patriots could fight on if Obama surrendered and used drones on the patriots.

9. The police probably could not keep domestic order in the event of an atomic attack.

10. The Persians have good reason to hate us after what Carter did to their country.
 

Zaac

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Your rambling diatribe makes no sense. It is incomplete but what there is is false. i have attempted to show you and others blacks who have accomplished something often rising above their circumstances and not blaming whites as you do!

Your hypocritical diatribe makes perfectly good sense to those of us who can see through poop.

You've attempted to do nothing but try to exonerate your white privilege from being part of the problem you profess to want to help Blacks rise above.

You're cloaked in that same fakeness as another on this board.

You need to reel that racial prejudice in.
 

Don

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1. Ward Churchill has said that the USA should be bombed with atomic bombs.
Who cares? He exercised his freedom of speech, and was later fired (a firing that was upheld by the Supreme Court) for plagiarism and unprofessional conduct. He's not on anyone's radar except as a whacko.

2. No one has said that Iran should be stopped from getting the atomic bomb and clearly the Democrats are not stopping Iran.

3. No one has denied that the USA is the prinicipal target of Iran, as Dr. Sowell has suggested. The Iranians have always said that Jerusalem would be the site of the first Iranian attack and then Paris.

4. There are already terrorist sleeper cells in the USA for many decades. The Muslim Brotherhood, a Nazi-Islamic offshoot, has a rich foundation operating openly for 40 years in the USA.

5. The border is so wide-open that criminals, communists, and terrorists can just walk into the country.
No disagreement; but what's the point?

6. The military is a hollow military
Please explain what you mean by "hollow military."
and an atomic attack might mean that the entire world would declare war on us.

7. No one denies that Obama could surrender. His sympathies lie with Jeremiah Wright.
Surrender to who?

8. It is unclear if patriots could fight on if Obama surrendered and used drones on the patriots.
It is very clear that patriots would fight on. You must be a city boy if you don't understand that.

Used drones on patriots? That presumes that the military would take up arms against their own countrymen, or hand over control of the drones to be used against their own countrymen.

If you believe either of those options is remotely possible, you don't know many--if any--service members.

The more likely scenario if Obama were to try to surrender, is that the military would revolt, along with members of Congress; Obama would be arrested; and a new president would immediately be sworn in.

9. The police probably could not keep domestic order in the event of an atomic attack.
"Probably"? Definitely. Martial law would be declared, and police would be subordinated to military control.

10. The Persians have good reason to hate us after what Carter did to their country.
Meh, they're always looking for a reason to hate someone.
 

Zaac

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I'm still trying to figure out who is gonna occupy us so that we have to surrender?
 

matt wade

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7. No one denies that Obama could surrender.

I deny it. Now your statement is false.


8. It is unclear if patriots could fight on if Obama surrendered and used drones on the patriots.

So now Obama will not only surrender, but still be in a position of power to use drones on the remaining loyal citizens? I assume somewhere in your imagination, Obama is set up to run this newly surrendered land because he cooperated?
 

Sapper Woody

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I'm still trying to figure out who is gonna occupy us so that we have to surrender?



That's what I'm trying to figure out here. "Oh no! They hit us with everything they had! ... And now they are no threat to us. Let's go destroy them."
 

Don

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I deny it. Now your statement is false.
To be fair -- he said Obama could surrender. In fairness, Obama could try to surrender...and somehow, I think CMG would be right there with us resisting if Obama tried....
 

Don

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That's what I'm trying to figure out here. "Oh no! They hit us with everything they had! ... And now they are no threat to us. Let's go destroy them."
Ya know, all ya gotta do is play Risk with the "special weapons" option, where you can use a nuke to remove all the armies from a country...but no one's allowed to occupy that country for 3-5 turns to simulate the effects of radiation...and one could start to understand the strategic problems with the scenario this thread has introduced...
 

church mouse guy

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To define a hollow military, it is the term that was used for our military between World War I and World War II. That is, an army on paper but not ready to fight. Many have noted that we could no longer fight on two fronts at once.
 

Don

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To define a hollow military, it is the term that was used for our military between World War I and World War II. That is, an army on paper but not ready to fight. Many have noted that we could no longer fight on two fronts at once.
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Why can't we fight on two fronts at once?
 

Sapper Woody

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To define a hollow military, it is the term that was used for our military between World War I and World War II. That is, an army on paper but not ready to fight. Many have noted that we could no longer fight on two fronts at once.



We've been fighting on two fronts for the last decade. I think we haven't lost that in the last year.



And believe me, I know for a fact our active duty is ready to fight. I can't speak for any reserve components, but active is ready.
 

Don

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We've been fighting on two fronts for the last decade. I think we haven't lost that in the last year.



And believe me, I know for a fact our active duty is ready to fight. I can't speak for any reserve components, but active is ready.
(It's a misunderstanding; the defense department has been reporting to Congress for several years that we're unable to fight two conventional war fronts at the same time; i.e., China and some other country in a conflict consisting of standard employment of ground, sea, and air power.

What has been described in this thread, and what we have been fighting for the last decade, is unconventional; and thus, the use of a "hollow military that can't fight on two fronts" as a justification for the flights of fancy presented here is ludicrous. Might as well read Orson Scott Card's "Empire" series....

I know you know this; I post it here for the enlightenment of others who aren't as familiar with these classifications)
 

Zaac

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....

Why can't we fight on two fronts at once?

I think people would be utterly surprised at how many fronts we can fight on at the same time if we took off the kid gloves and said screw all these parameters that our enemies and the rest of the world think we have to be hemmed in by.

We've got the most powerful, most skilled military in the world many times over.

We could have already decimated the two fronts we're fighting on IF we wanted to.
 
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church mouse guy

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(It's a misunderstanding; the defense department has been reporting to Congress for several years that we're unable to fight two conventional war fronts at the same time; i.e., China and some other country in a conflict consisting of standard employment of ground, sea, and air power.

What has been described in this thread, and what we have been fighting for the last decade, is unconventional; and thus, the use of a "hollow military that can't fight on two fronts" as a justification for the flights of fancy presented here is ludicrous. Might as well read Orson Scott Card's "Empire" series....

I know you know this; I post it here for the enlightenment of others who aren't as familiar with these classifications)

I agree that those who are talking about two fronts are speaking of conventional major wars such as in World War II when we fought Germany and Italy in Europe and Japan in the Pacific. Remember reductions in troop numbers have lowered our military to small levels at this time.
 

blackbird

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In World War II---the Germans found out that they COULD fight on two fronts at the same time

although

they could not sustain that fighting force for any more length of time than what they did without being "pinched" in the west and being "run over" on in the east

And it was the Germans then---who had the most skilled, most reliable military in the world
 

church mouse guy

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In World War II---the Germans found out that they COULD fight on two fronts at the same time

although

they could not sustain that fighting force for any more length of time than what they did without being "pinched" in the west and being "run over" on in the east

And it was the Germans then---who had the most skilled, most reliable military in the world

Interesting, but Hitler insisted on going east. They went in about June and by October or so were stalled outside Moscow. From then on they were slowly pushed out and Russia eventually took Berlin and murdered Patton. Do you agree that the German defeat looks much like the French defeat in Russia?

As for atomic devastation, Sowell points out that Japan only took two attacks.
 

blackbird

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Interesting, but Hitler insisted on going east. They went in about June and by October or so were stalled outside Moscow. From then on they were slowly pushed out and Russia eventually took Berlin and murdered Patton.

Had Hitler gone on to conquer the Caucasus instead of turning north toward Moscow----I believe that would have led to Russia's defeat

When did Russia murder Patton??
 

church mouse guy

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Had Hitler gone on to conquer the Caucasus instead of turning north toward Moscow----I believe that would have led to Russia's defeat

When did Russia murder Patton??

Stalin caused an automobile wreck that rammed a huge truck into Patton's car on December 8, 1945.
 
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