All the while working to ensure millions of children are ripped apart limb by limb every year. And now he has returned the American tax dollar to provide support to extend this holocaust globally. That is quite distasteful, bad form, and ungodly. Any country that finds that kind of leader acceptable has its own issues.
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Obama's gift to the Queen
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All the while working to ensure millions of children are ripped apart limb by limb every year. And now he has returned the American tax dollar to provide support to extend this holocaust globally. That is quite distasteful, bad form, and ungodly. Any country that finds that kind of leader acceptable has its own issues.
Here's a list of countries Bush has visited as President, with frequencies in parentheses:
1 -- Mexico (6)
2 -- Canada (4)
3 -- Spain
4 -- Belgium (2)
5 -- Sweden
6 -- Poland (2)
7 -- Slovenia
8 -- Britain (4)
9 -- Italy (4)
10 -- Kosovo (UN Administered)
11 -- China (3) ,
12 -- Japan (3)
13 --South Korea (2)
14 -- Peru
15 -- El Salvador
16 -- Germany (4)
17 -- Russia (5) (6 as of 4/5/08)
18 -- France (3)
19 -- Vatican (3)
20 -- Czech Republic (2)
21 -- Lithuania
22 -- Romania (2 as of 4/2/08)
23 -- Portugal (Azores)
24 -- Switzerland (Transit only)
25 -- Egypt (2)
26 -- Jordan (2)
27 -- Qatar
28 -- Senegal
29 -- South Africa
30 -- Botswana
31 -- Uganda
32 -- Nigeria
33 -- The Philippines
34 -- Thailand
35 -- Singapore (2)
36 -- Indonesia (2)
37 -- Australia (2)
38 -- Iraq (3)
39 -- Ireland
40 -- Turkey
41 -- Chile
42 -- Colombia (2)
43 -- Slovakia
44 -- Latvia (2)
45 -- The Netherlands
46 -- Georgia
47 -- Denmark
48 -- Argentina
49 -- Brazil
50 -- Panama
51 -- Mongolia
52 -- Afghanistan
53 -- India
54 -- Pakistan
55 -- Austria
56 -- Hungary
57 -- Vietnam
58 -- Estonia
59 -- Uruguay
60 -- Guatemala
61 -- Albania
62 -- Bulgaria
63 -- Israel
64 -- Palestinian Territory (West Bank)
65 -- Kuwait
66 -- Bahrain
67 -- UAE
68 -- Saudi Arabia
69 -- Benin
70 -- Tanzania
71 -- Rwanda
72 -- Ghana
73 -- Liberia
74 -- Ukraine
75 -- Croatia (as of 4/4/08)
http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/04/the_list_countries_pres_george_1.html
Just curious why you leave out the rare song book he gave the queen?
Also, turns out the queen requested the IPOD. She has one that wasn't video so asked for the video flavor.
When I flew over "The Big Pond" and visited the UK-----I hung out with an English pastor in Ogmore-by-Sea, Wales
He asked me what sort of English "dish" I would like while there---and his wife would fix it for me
I told him I never have had Lamb---that it was a rariety in the US---particularily in the south
So-----his wife cooked Lamb-----and it was good---sorta sweet with the texture of Chicken(makes me wonder if they "pulled one over" on Blackbird!!!!!!
Next day---he and I were "motoring" down the wrong side of the road in his car-------and he says to me
"I never have eaten at an American resteraunt before------lets pull in to this one-----it'll give me an idea of how you Americans eat!!!!!!"
So we pull into McDonald's!!!!!!:laugh::laugh: Cardiff, Wales has a McDonald's!!!! Hitler would have never taken Chamberlain to the Golden Arches!!!!!
Of all the bloomin'(wait, that word is for Austrailia) resteraunts there was to eat in-------and we have McDonald's---------fly across "The Big Pond" and eat McDonald's------------personally---I was kinda hungry for Chinese buffet!!!!!!:type::type:
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North Carolina Tentmaker
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I know this is the popular mantra, but I just don't believe it. I have traveled to many other places and while other governments may hate us the people of most nations do not.
GWB spent billions on poverty and aids in Africa and was the most loved American president there in decades.
The people of Iraq welcome our presense, I know I have been there and talked to them. They do hate many of our government policies, primarily because they are afraid we will pull our troops out and leave them to die. Hey we did it to them in 92 and we have done it to other countries before and since.
Just who is it in the world that hates us and why? Is it possible that the evil people of the world hate the United States because we still are in many cases a force for justice and good in the world.
Could it be that the socialist leaders of the G20 love Obama because he is destroying America?
North Carolina Tentmaker
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This entire gifts thing is I think foolish.
Yes Obama's gifts might be different. Don't most of these gifts end up locked away somewhere anyway. Don't American diplomats have to turn in gifts like this?
I have enough trouble keeping up with Christmas/Birthday/Anniversary/Mother's Day/Valentines Day/Whatever Day gifts for my own family. I can't imagine being tasked with figuring out what to get foreign politicians.
I did think the idea of gifts like this was to showcase something unique to your country. Something made in your country. Where are ipods made? Is anything still made here?
Yes Obama's gifts might be different. Don't most of these gifts end up locked away somewhere anyway. Don't American diplomats have to turn in gifts like this?
I have enough trouble keeping up with Christmas/Birthday/Anniversary/Mother's Day/Valentines Day/Whatever Day gifts for my own family. I can't imagine being tasked with figuring out what to get foreign politicians.
I did think the idea of gifts like this was to showcase something unique to your country. Something made in your country. Where are ipods made? Is anything still made here?
Totally agree NCT!
Seems to me stuff like this is just playing into the leftists hands, cause when we're complaining about the pimple on the nose, the cancer in the liver is going un-noticed.
We are doing for them precisely what they hoped to accomplish with the "Rush" complaints et al; IE get the focus off the deeds of the "0"!
In essence we have a Jr Engineer that has been catapulted to the position of CEO of the consulting firm - are we gonna focus on his tie selection --- or---- the decisions being made by him that affect the well-being of the firm???
You are partially right, from those I encounter on the streets and in my travels, Republican's are simply showing their true colors. It is really making some who drifted from the party wonder how they were ever part of that bunch. You see how they approval ratings remain consistently low with all the negative things the Democrats have done of late.
Republican's have become this closed organization who have done nothing but find fault with every effort being made. They have no other suggestion but tax cut yet criticize those who try. The nation and world economy got in this mess during a time of massive tax cuts and while they were in control and now somehow they are the ones who are suddenly economic experts and should be giving the advice. If their philosophy was going to work, we would have avoided ever being here because all the Bush tax cuts would have steered us passed this island.
This thread is another great example. All Republican's can do is find fault, find fault, find fault. What's more sad is how only the IPOD is mentioned. It's all over the conservatives news and blogs, the IPOD. There is no admission the queen requested it and not one Republican referenced the expensive rare song book. In my view that is lying and liars... Well, you read scripture..
What I am seeing is the few who still claim to belong to the right are drawing closer together in their hatred and opposition to anyone not in their group. They call themselves the "loyal opposition" which really opposing, twisting and labeling everyone else. They are the elitist if anyone is.
Now get this, their logic is if they can be anti anything happening for the next two years they feel the world will love them and support their views again. What most of us on the outside see is a bunch of spoiled brats who are mad because they lost "top dog" position. They look like the spoiled kid who took his ball and went home but they don't see it when they look in the mirror. It's comical is what it is...
Oh, and so I don't forget anything.... They withdraw into the party of victims mode when the press don't publish things to their satisfaction but look how they twist and bend the truth. This thread is a great example. I wonder if they ever read that you reap what you sow?
Look at this headline...
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/2009/04/03#0022
Teasing and mocking??? Are these adults or children? Who do they think wants to be part of that? Teasing and mocking??? If that's the strategy they should get used to the minority title cuz their going to have it a long time...
saturneptune
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I do not like Obama, or anything about him. However, I could care less about the royal family, their likes, dislikes, what floats their boat, or what irks them. Our whole country was founded to depart from that nonsense. It is beyond me why they are even covered in American media. They serve no useful function, especially in respect to our nation.
1. Same goes for the Dems - all they can do is criticize Bush and the Repbublicans
2. Tax cuts is only the first step - we also need to have massive budget cuts -
Well, eveybody wants those execpt the program that beneifts themselves personally.
This thread is another great example. All Republican's (or Democrats) can do is find fault, find fault, find fault.
Its funny the OP is about the givt OB gave the Queen and it turns into a bash on both sides.
Well maybe thats part of the reason I am neither Republican or Democrat
In my view, the Democrats were no were near as petty as the republican's are being. Yes, they were against some of the Bush policies to include his tax cuts but you have to acknowledge the Democrats supported Bush in many things to include going to war in Iraq. IOW, they didn't just fold their arms, stick our their lips and refuse to play because the game moved from their court.
Again I repeat, we were cutting taxes and deregulating when all this happened. If that philosophy was to be effective in resolving this crises, we wouldn't be in this situation since that what we did in the years preceding the crises.
Also, we all know "massive budget cuts" is always code word form removing or slashing social programs since the right can always justify other spending. Do you really want to cut the social programs while unemployment is at a 30 year high? That's really the Christin attitude of giving...
I think it's really sad what the Republican's did to all the help for Veterans and I am glad to see that being changed. I will gladly pay more to support our vets.
What has Obama done in his first 100 days that the right didn't find fault with? Can you name something? If I recall, the Democrats gave Bush a honeymoon period.
I agree, I am neither Republican or Democrat but I can see the value of both sides. That is why I vote both directions depending on current times.
I may not agree with the size or total content of the stimulus package but know the concept was necessary. I also like the idea of changing captains at GM though I wish the board of directors who are paid to watch the captain would have come to the conclusion long before now. But since they didn't, I can appreciate Obama stepping up before the ship sank.
As for the gift, they had an English reporter on one of the news shows who said what Obama did was great for Apple and Apple stock. They can't keep an IPOD in stock on that side of the pond since Obama gave that gift.
Way to push American goods Mr President... :thumbsup:
Media Matters????
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I am surprised you would post your talking points source.
IPODs are made in America ? News to me.
Short answer is YES!!! Why, for the most part, those prgrams are unconstitional - if the Feds are paying for it. Now if a State or Commonwealth wants to give money away - thats a whole different story.
And at the same time spending much like we are now but now it is far worse. You always try to ignore all the spending when you knowingly try to make failed attempts to prove that tax cuts are the cause.
The deregulation lie has been debunked time and time again.For you to continue to pronounce it gives you no credibility. The dems are the ones who had a problem with the regulation the Repubs wanted and called for. The lack of new regulation on Fannie and Freddie is the main cause of this whole problem.
So now we see that spending and lack of regulation on Fanie And Freddie got us here. Now libbies want to continue that failed policy. Libbies are the ones who want to stay the course and continue failed policies.
We need a new one since 12 years of Labour government have ripped up our old one. Does yours work in reality?
[ETA - I woudn't want a republic at this stage as I'm quite fond of Brenda. Once she pops her clogs and the useless Brian takes over, I may change my tune]
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Does constitutionality override your Christian demeanor...
You still haven't shown me how the government debt relates to our current situation. You guys are the ones who keep trying to tie the deficit to this crises. If the dollar was devalued you would be right.
What we need is someone to buy something. That is what the stimulus package does, it buys good and services...
Fannie and Freddie were only part of the problem and I haven't seen deregulation debunked. The deregulation that allowed banks, financial and insurance companies to combine was certainly a contributer to this crises and that came about from deregulation. What's really sad, the regulation was a lesson we should have learned from the great depression. We removed it and got the second great depression. DOH!!!
What... That is a narrow view of this crises... However, during that period there was deregulation and tax cuts just the same yet we are still in this mess. That's like saying I was taking vitiman C when got this cold so if I keep taking it I will be cured...