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obama's lie and hypocrisy

FollowTheWay

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That is DNC talking points, not reality. Obama told Republicans his first term they would have to sit in the back of the bus. And he did it on national TV. You need to get your facts straight.

Actually, what I described is democracy. What form of government do you support?
 

Revmitchell

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Actually, what I described is democracy. What form of government do you support?

Not sure why you asked me but I support our current form of Government in the United States of America which is a Republic.

Do you know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy?


America is not a Democracy.
 

Bro. Curtis

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It is well known and the GOP has said they held a meeting before Obama was sworn into office in 2009 that they would oppose everything he proposed ... and they had done that, even opposing ideas they had been pushing to become law.

Where and when ?

Remember when Mitch filibustered his own idea that he had just proposed because the Democrats agreed?
No, perhaps you could source it, and explain how it is different from Charlie Rangle introducing legislation to re-instate the draft (notice the detail in my post) then voting against it. Thanx, in advance.

There are those on the board who are obsessed and will continue to post multiple posts about Obama daily.
Were you obsessed by Romney, a few years ago ? You sure did throw a lot of threads up.
 

FollowTheWay

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Not the other party's job to rubber stamp everything you propose. Expecting them do so so is not "consensus building," it's attempted dictatorship, and now he's follow through with the real thing by simply creating "law" out of thing air with his famous line, "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone ... " Well, Great Pretender, take that pen and write your resignation, and use that phone to call somebody who gives a rat's furry behind. That's the only "consensus" action you're going to get unless you start acting like you want to govern instead of dictate.

We're not talking about "rubber stamping." We're talking about their ONLY objective is to oppose everything Obama proposes. Democracy can't function in that kind of environment.
 

Revmitchell

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We're not talking about "rubber stamping." We're talking about their ONLY objective is to oppose everything Obama proposes. Democracy can't function in that kind of environment.

If you are going to make false accusations about repubs you should at least know what kind of government e have in America. That you you do not look completely foolish.
 

FollowTheWay

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Not sure why you asked me but I support our current form of Government in the United States of America which is a Republic.

Do you know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy?


America is not a Democracy.

Of course. Why did Bush keep talking about spreading Democracy to other countries. I guess he didn't understand the difference.
 

OldRegular

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We're not talking about "rubber stamping." We're talking about their ONLY objective is to oppose everything Obama proposes. Democracy can't function in that kind of environment.

Republicans should oppose him considering everything Obama proposes is designed to destroy the Republic!
 

Revmitchell

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Of course. Why did Bush keep talking about spreading Democracy to other countries. I guess he didn't understand the difference.

Seriously, do you even know the difference between a Democracy and a Republic. Have you ever said the Pledge of Allegiance?
 

OldRegular

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There is no democracy without honest debate on the issues and arrival at a concensus. The Republicans simply refuse to do that. What kind of government would you prefer, a dictatorship by the Radical Right?

How much debate was there regarding Obama's failed attempt to Socialize the medical care system? None! And the idiotic democrat leader said: "We have to pass the law to see what is in it!" The country is seeing just how bad the law is and how dumb the democrats in Congress were to pass it!
 

poncho

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Not sure why you asked me but I support our current form of Government in the United States of America which is a Republic.

Do you know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy?


America is not a Democracy.

Our current form of government in the United States is a corporatist oligarchy.

That would make you a supporter of a corporatist oligarchy, not a republican form of government. In a republic the individual's rights are protected by the government by way of a written constitution, in a corporatist oligarchy the government usurps the individual's rights and steals his wealth to benefit a small group of corporate elite's.

A corporatist oligarchy is not a democracy either. Democracy is rule by majority, in the US we have rule by the few, an oligarchy. To be precise a global financier/multinational corporate oligarchy.
 
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Don

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Since the Republicans only objective is to block everything President Obama proposes this is the only way America can react to the increasing economic crisis in the world. I'd love to see some cooperation from the other side of the aisle to save the future of our country but it seems they just don't have anything to offer.

Define "cooperation."
 
I'd love to see some cooperation from the other side of the aisle to save the future of our country but it seems they just don't have anything to offer.
So would I, but it seems the "other side of the aisle," the Democrats, are more interested in establishing Marxism than they are in actual responsible governance.
 

poncho

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I don't know if you think about it both parties have found common ground in fascism and authoritarianism.

The real sticking point is neither side wants the other to have all the power that they've worked so hard together to consolidate in the executive branch. They both want to have an eventual dictatorship, they just don't want the other side to be in control of it.
 

saturneptune

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There is no democracy without honest debate on the issues and arrival at a concensus. The Republicans simply refuse to do that. What kind of government would you prefer, a dictatorship by the Radical Right?

This is what I prefer. I prefer elected leaders (Congress, President and Vice President) be leaders who follow the Constitution. This has nothing to do with left-right, or liberal-conservative. I prefer candidates that have a heart for serving the American people instead of robbing us daily, and making their goal in life the next election and being self indulgent slobs with power and tax money. I prefer leaders that are honest, and do the job they were elected to do, and that is govern, not play political games.

I would prefer that the American people turn out every Congress person, Senator, and too late for the President, but start over. After they are defeated, I would have each one investigated for high crimes and misdemeanors. Upon conviction, everyone of them would be in a pen run by the famous Arizona sheriff, with chain gangs and chopping rocks.
 

Walguy

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Define "cooperation."
The problem is that the Dems definition of 'cooperation,' for a long time now, is 'Republicans going along with what we want to do.' Anything less is 'obstructionism,' and 'no ideas,' even when the Repubs DO have detailed alternatives, and even when the House has actually passed them. Add to that now that we have a President who has proven definitively that he cannot be trusted to enforce even laws he wanted passed, and it's hard to see any basis for genuine 'cooperation.'
 
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