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rlvaughn

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Please read the following sentences and respond with the first thing that comes to your mind. (There are no right or wrong answers.)

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John...And Herod sent, and beheaded John in the prison. (John 1:6; Matthew 14:10)
 

rlvaughn

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Anyone willing to share your reaction? There are no right or wrong answers, and there is no hook or trick. Just curious.
 

HankD

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Please read the following sentences and respond with the first thing that comes to your mind. (There are no right or wrong answers.)

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John...And Herod sent, and beheaded John in the prison. (John 1:6; Matthew 14:10)
Herod was an islamic terrorist.

HankD
 

Jerome

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Please read the following sentences and respond with the first thing that comes to your mind. (There are no right or wrong answers.)

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John...And Herod sent, and beheaded John in the prison. (John 1:6; Matthew 14:10)

Wow, haven't seen such a creative use of an ellipsis since this howler by JArthur (remember him? and his Mountain Monergism 'movement'?) six years ago here:
God has not appointed salvation by enquiry-rooms. . . . For the most part, a wounded conscience, like a wounded stag, delights to be alone that it may bleed in secret.
Charles Spurgeon
Not sure what to make of the ellipses. The second sentence is from a sermon preached years before the sermon from which is extracted the first sentence
Although JArthur has joined these two statements with ellipses, Spurgeon said the last part in a sermon in 1877 and the first part in an entirely different sermon years later.
 

rlvaughn

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Alcott, you've succeeded in making me think of the Queen of Hearts (Alice in Wonderland).
 

evangelist6589

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Please read the following sentences and respond with the first thing that comes to your mind. (There are no right or wrong answers.)

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John...And Herod sent, and beheaded John in the prison. (John 1:6; Matthew 14:10)

John the prophet
 

rlvaughn

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Wow, haven't seen such a creative use of an ellipsis since this howler by JArthur (remember him? and his Mountain Monergism 'movement'?) six years ago here:
Jerome, not sure whether you mean that as complimentary, derogatory or simply amusing. But...

I think the "logic" of the two sentences are that they are the book ends of the earthly ministry of John the Baptist.
 

rsr

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Jerome, not sure whether you mean that as complimentary, derogatory or simply amusing. But...

Don't worry, Robert. Jerome has just taken a pot shot at a Calvinist and it has nothing to do with you. You just gave him a convoluted opportunity.
 

rlvaughn

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It is easy to view the two statements (or the opening post) as incongruous; divorced from the purpose of God, one may only read of a man who came to an ugly and untimely end. It is not exceptional that those whole perform the design of God come into conflict with the world – or even that whoever kills them think they are performing a service for God. John was sent through a marvelous demonstration of Deity (Luke 1:1-80). John was sent with a distinct proclamation to deliver (Mark 1:1-4), John was executed only after his distinct purpose was accomplished (Acts 13:25).

Plagues and deaths around me fly,
Till he please I cannot die;
Not a single shaft can hit
Till the God of love sees fit.
(Isaac Watts)
 

Jerome

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Jerome, not sure whether you mean that as complimentary, derogatory or simply amusing. But...

I think the "logic" of the two sentences are that they are the book ends of the earthly ministry of John the Baptist.

An ellipsis is normally used to indicate one is leaving out a portion of quoted text, not to join portions taken from different texts.

Thank you for explaining.
 

rlvaughn

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You're welcome. I see that, yes, strictly interpreting the use of the ellipsis. Mine is an historical ellipsis. :)
 
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