Officers ignore Commissioner Bratton's plea and turn their backs AGAIN on de Blasio

[Zaac]

Officers ignore Commissioner Bratton's plea and turn their backs AGAIN on de Blasio at funeral for slain Brooklyn cop Wenjian Liu

Thousands of police turned their backs Sunday as Mayor Bill de Blasio eulogized an officer shot dead with his partner, repeating a stinging display of scorn for the mayor despite entreaties to put anger aside.

The show of disrespect came outside the funeral home where Officer Wenjian Liu was remembered as an incarnation of the American dream: a man who had emigrated from China at age 12 and devoted himself to helping others in his adopted country.

The gesture among officers watching the mayor's speech on a screen added to tensions between the mayor and rank-and-file police even as he sought to quiet them.

'Let us move forward by strengthening the bonds that unite us, and let us work together to attain peace,' de Blasio said at the funeral.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lows-cold-wet-day-mourning.html#ixzz3NuePAwNz

 

[righteousdude2]

This issue is as big, and important as your views on race and homosexuality! This is America, they stil have the right to free speach, and until those cops get an apology from the mayor for his total disrespect and placing them in harm's way, they should do as they feel led to do!

Is it right? I can't say. But they have a right to their opinion. Working for the city of New York does not men they lose the right to show their displeasure. After all, they can walk off the job over pay and benefit issues, so how is turning their back on the mayor any worse than leaving the city unprotected due to a union strike?

In light of all that's gone on in NY the last month, I'd say they should be allowed to demonstrate just as long as their opinions and displeasure do not come between them and their sworn oath to protect and serve the public who pays them.

BTW - just what is your view on their actions?

 

[Zaac]

No one questioned their right or freedom to do what they did.. But one would think you would say the same thing about the rights of the protestors.

But as for the officers, I'd put them on suspension, fine them or fire them. They ignored a direct command from the Commissioner. And it's that type of do- what -we- want- to- no- matter- what behavior that has caused the perception problems they have with the black community.

If you're not going to respect the boss, and gonna disregard what your direct boss asked you to not do, why should anyone trust them to police justly?

 

[Revmitchell]

Is it right?

Yep.....................

 

[Rolfe]

Yep.....................

Second that.

 

[ShagNappy]

They ignored a direct command from the Commissioner.

As with most of what you post, this is completely untrue and possibly an intentional lie.

Bratton — while stressing there was no direct order or threat of discipline — made it clear he expected better from the city’s Finest when Mayor de Blasio appears at the service.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...cops-not-turn-backs-funeral-article-1.2064080

 

[righteousdude2]

As with most of what you post, this is completely untrue and possibly an intentional lie.



http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...cops-not-turn-backs-funeral-article-1.2064080

Thanks, that is how I understood the chief. In fact it seemed to be half-hearted at the most. Almost like he was playing to political pressure.

This particular member is good at spinning. I am surprised he doesn't suffer from dizzy spells :smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:

 

[Zaac]

They ignored a direct request from the Commissioner.

Better? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[righteousdude2]

They ignored a direct request from the Commissioner.

Better? :smilewinkgrin:

And the protesters IGNORED a dire t request from the mayor to stop protesting until the funerals were over.

They ignore the mayor.

 

[Rolfe]

Was listening to a Milwaukee talk radio station this morning. The show's host interviewed Sheriff David Clark, who attended. Clark wholeheartedly agreed with the officers' actions.

Normally, I do not think it appropriate to protest at funerals. I think this is different because of two reasons: 1. The protests were in support of the assassinated officers. 2. It can be legitimately argued that the mayor's public attitude and actions contributed to their deaths and shows contempt for those who serve in the department.

 

[Rolfe]

They ignored a direct request from the Commissioner.

Better? :smilewinkgrin:

I wonder if Shagnappy thinks that their actions were inappropriate.

 

[Zaac]

And the protesters IGNORED a dire t request from the mayor to stop protesting until the funerals were over.

They ignore the mayor.

The protestors don't work for the Mayor or the Commissioner.

 

[carpro]

Officers ignore Commissioner Bratton's plea and turn their backs AGAIN on de Blasio at funeral for slain Brooklyn cop Wenjian Liu

Thousands of police turned their backs Sunday as Mayor Bill de Blasio eulogized an officer shot dead with his partner, repeating a stinging display of scorn for the mayor despite entreaties to put anger aside.

The show of disrespect came outside the funeral home where Officer Wenjian Liu was remembered as an incarnation of the American dream: a man who had emigrated from China at age 12 and devoted himself to helping others in his adopted country.

The gesture among officers watching the mayor's speech on a screen added to tensions between the mayor and rank-and-file police even as he sought to quiet them.

'Let us move forward by strengthening the bonds that unite us, and let us work together to attain peace,' de Blasio said at the funeral.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lows-cold-wet-day-mourning.html#ixzz3NuePAwNz

Just as they should. The commissioner is the hired lackey of the mayor. He had to make the request or be fired.

They were right to ignore it. The commissioner was probably hoping they would.

 

[Zaac]

Was listening to a Milwaukee talk radio station this morning. The show's host interviewed Sheriff David Clark, who attended. Clark wholeheartedly agreed with the officers' actions.

Normally, I do not think it appropriate to protest at funerals. I think this is different because of two reasons: 1. The protests were in support of the assassinated officers. 2. It can be legitimately argued that the mayor's public attitude and actions contributed to their deaths and shows contempt for those who serve in the department.

It's called situational ethics and will always stink of hypocrisy. Either it's always right or its always wrong. Once you start opening the door for exceptions, you leave the realm of morality and enter the realm of politics.

 

[Zaac]

Just as they should. The commissioner is the hired lackey of the mayor. He had to make the request or be fired.

They were right to ignore it. The commissioner was probably hoping they would.

And they should rightfully be disciplined. It's a disgusting display from a group of people that a lot of folks are already pretty disgusted with. But their behavior is consistent and out of control just as the speeches at protests and rallies have pointed out.

 

[Gina B]

The message I get from this is "See what happens when you don't 100% agree with officers? We band together to take you down."
A funeral is just not a wise place to air this stuff. It is setting a precedent that is disgusting.
There are always better ways than at funerals. This just serves to cast more of a "We are our own club, separate from any other people or authority" view of police officers and that is more dangerous than most anything.

 

[Rolfe]

It's called situational ethics and will always stink of hypocrisy. Either it's always right or its always wrong. Once you start opening the door for exceptions, you leave the realm of morality and enter the realm of politics.

Situational ethics? Hypocrisy? No. I believe that, given my reasons as stated, it is reasonable behaviour.

Disclosure: My family lost, while performing his duties, a member who was a police officer. I am biased.

 

[Zaac]

The message I get from this is "See what happens when you don't 100% agree with officers? We band together to take you down."
A funeral is just not a wise place to air this stuff. It is setting a precedent that is disgusting.
There are always better ways than at funerals. This just serves to cast more of a "We are our own club, separate from any other people or authority" view of police officers and that is more dangerous than most anything.

You nailed it Gina.:thumbsup: They've already got a bad rep and this just added to it for the exact reasons you mentioned.

This very behavior is causing others to stop and consider that if they will respond to their bosses like this and hold the "blue line", how many times have they or will they possibly break the law and cover up for one another? Maybe they are as out of control as the protestors have been saying.

If you don't give a flying rat's behind about your bosses, the community certainly isn't gonna think you care about them enough to be just.

Their behavior feeds the systemic narrative that's been mentioned.

 

[Zaac]

Situational ethics? Hypocrisy? No. I believe that, given my reasons as stated, it is reasonable behaviour.

I didn't say it wasn't reasonable. Reasonable isn't always RIGHT. And it's either okay to make political protests at a funeral or it's not. I don't think it's the right thing to do EVER. It's just disrespectful to the family members who have lost a loved one.. It's wrong when the Westboro Baptist folks try to do it. It's wrong when the police try to do it.

Disclosure: My family lost, while performing his duties, a member who was a police officer. I am biased.

I'm sorry for your loss. Tragically losing someone is never easy. And I think that's all the more reason you want to at least let the FUNERAL be about showing our support for the loved ones. Politics and personal gripes can wait an hour.

 

[carpro]

The message I get from this is "See what happens when you don't 100% agree with officers? We band together to take you down."
A funeral is just not a wise place to air this stuff. It is setting a precedent that is disgusting.
There are always better ways than at funerals. This just serves to cast more of a "We are our own club, separate from any other people or authority" view of police officers and that is more dangerous than most anything.

If the mayor had any sense, he would not have showed up to eulogize the man whose blood was on his hands.

I believe your view is in the minority.

The mayor has done nothing to ease the tensions he caused.

In this case, the funeral was the perfect place for this type of quiet protest. He was slain by people who were encouraged to do violence against police officers by the mayor.