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Okay ... let's say we accept all these children and make them citizens, THEN WHAT?

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Bro. James

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I know Massachusetts law makes in impossible to know the mental and criminal histories of children up for adoption. I know a lot of families who have been destroyed by adopted kids. Thousands, as my history working with juvenile delinquents for nine years will attest to. They are not isolated incidents.

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We seem to be loosing sight of "much prayer and fasting". Trusting God with the WHOLE mind, body and soul; and the neighbor as the self is THE prerequisite to the good works which "God has before ordained that we should walk in them".

To God-- be the Glory--great things He has done.

We suffer from misplaced glory. God is jealous of glory.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
 

poncho

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NAFTA and the SPP aka the North American Union.

There's more to this than whether or not to accept thousands of "children" into our country. How much more of our national sovereignty are we willing to give up to become "integrated" with Canada and Mexico?
 
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Bro. Curtis

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We seem to be loosing sight of "much prayer and fasting". Trusting God with the WHOLE mind, body and soul; and the neighbor as the self is THE prerequisite to the good works which "God has before ordained that we should walk in them".

I'm stating a fact. Adoption is a risky proposition, and if you decide to go that way, you better be prepared.

To God-- be the Glory--great things He has done.

Yes. Praise God. Even when you are working with a 14 year old who raped a nine-month old to death, and grievously injured her twin sister.

We suffer from misplaced glory. God is jealous of glory.

God doesn't want fools, either. People need to be careful.
 

just-want-peace

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Why is what is happening now with these kids different than Elian Gonzalez?

IIRC, the excuse given was "it's the law!", for the forced deportation of Elian.

'Course we didn't want to offend Castro, did we???:BangHead::BangHead::BangHead:
 

ShagNappy

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Why is what is happening now with these kids different than Elian Gonzalez?

His mother took him, supposedly without permission from the father, and fled with her boyfriend to America, dying on the way. His dad wanted him back, just as you would want your kid back if they were kidnapped from you and hauled off to another country. These kids now are being sent by their parents in hopes that they will be allowed to join their kids here, then gaining immunity, then legalization.

I wonder, if we become the next communist country, like many here constantly squawk is happening, will they resist if someone from a non-communist country comes and takes their kid away because it would be better for the kid to not grow up in a communist country, or would they want their kid back? I think we know the answer.
 

poncho

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Or debt slaves . . . same thing.

Educate them? That's a good one. Our education system is just another failed federal experiment in govt intervention, political correctness and nanny state zero tolerance policies.

How about we trade them to the Chinese for the manufacturing jobs the Clintons and Bushies shipped over there?

Better yet how about we stop exploiting their home countries?

You know . . . help them on the path to prosperity and self sufficiency in their own countries rather than exploit them for various reasons of greed and control while they are in their country and once again when they get here.

A lot of the problems they face at home have been created by our interventionist policies. The failed "war on drugs" being but one of them.

No, I don't an expect a lively discussion about how our interventionism is one of the root causes of the current immigration problem so don't get nervous. I do expect quite a bit of the usual leftie vs rightie arguments, one side blaming the other forever and ever amen, while the globalists continue with their "deep integration" plan for a North American Union.

We're already hearing from our political parasites "what comes after America?". North America! That's the solution that was decided upon before the crisis even began, now we're in the "reaction" stage. And all y'all are reacting as planned.

I expect when the elite come right and say that merging the USA with Mexico and Canada is the only way to overcome this "crisis" most of us here will accept it. After all our leaders know what's best for everyone. Right?
 
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Rolfe

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His mother took him, supposedly without permission from the father, and fled with her boyfriend to America, dying on the way. His dad wanted him back, just as you would want your kid back if they were kidnapped from you and hauled off to another country. These kids now are being sent by their parents in hopes that they will be allowed to join their kids here, then gaining immunity, then legalization.

I wonder, if we become the next communist country, like many here constantly squawk is happening, will they resist if someone from a non-communist country comes and takes their kid away because it would be better for the kid to not grow up in a communist country, or would they want their kid back? I think we know the answer.

Sent by both parents? And you know this to be fact how?
 

Revmitchell

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I wonder, if we become the next communist country, like many here constantly squawk is happening, will they resist if someone from a non-communist country comes and takes their kid away because it would be better for the kid to not grow up in a communist country, or would they want their kid back? I think we know the answer.

Why do you wonder that?
 

just-want-peace

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Then we'll have some more citizens' militias.

Just what the ZERO wants!
Soon enough one side or t'other will fire a shot (and regardless which side actually does, the "militia" will be blamed; courtesy of the MSM) and then guess who will bring out the big guns (homeland sec., FBI, et al) and declare martial law - mission accomplished!!:tear:
 

poncho

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Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government. Henry Kissinger

Mission (almost) Accomplished!

Time to wake up . . .
 
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