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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, Aug 3, 2020.

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  1. AustinC

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    Is there a difference?
     
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    Joel Osteen, heretic or not heretic, tis the question! All synergists untie! I mean, unite!
     
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    Good point. :Thumbsup
     
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    I am not sure that Joel qualifies as a "heretic". A heretic has false beliefs about serving God, but Joel believes that God serves us and our best life is now. Doesn't that make Joel more of a "pagan" ... like a Buddhist or Muslim or Animist?
     
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    A heretic can recant ... a Yankee fan can't stop being a New Yorker (it's genetic).
     
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    What school did you attend?

    What was his name?
     
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    Which scholars?

    Thanks
     
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    Dont want to inflame the thread but Cals see Divine Love in predestination. We are recipients of it as the elect of God.

    We see Gods love for the “few” or “remnant” not everyone

    Btw, Cal is not Hypercalvinism. They are 2 totally distinct issues. One is heresy the other is not.

    Please do not fire it up over this post

    Just trying to be clear


    Thanks
     
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    I attended Columbia State (a community college in TN), Troy State University, Tennessee College of Applied Technology, Montgomery University, and Liberty University. The professor who told me that was at Liberty University (I believe this would have been graduate school which I completed via an online format). I cannot remember the professor who said that as this or the course but I assume it was a theology prof.. My primary interest then was Church History and I know it was not that professor.
     
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    Would it be fair to say, then, that a Yankee fan is predestined to that fate?
     
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    Or any other word of faith teacher!
     
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    Huh, now you are advocating an all out civil war.
     
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    How about like a Muslim, as having a God who is not the One of the Bible?
     
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    Yea, go ask Trump!
     
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    Yes. To be played out on the diamond.
     
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    Returning to the compulsion versus persuasion issue...

    God is sovereign.
    But what does that mean?
    Does God compel whatsoever comes to pass?
    Or does God cause or allow whatsoever comes to pass.

    Those in positions of power condemn those not in power as heretics.
    This has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a view accurately presentments scripture.
    The Pharisees condemned Christ.

    Rather than finding fault with others, consider how many Calvinists post about the faults of Calvinism?
    Answer, they do not. Instead they misrepresent Calvinism, such as the "T" just means the fallen cannot save themselves. Did any other Calvinist post a rebuke or correction? Nope. There you have it folks. Nuff said
     
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    Was this topic EVER about "the compulsion versus persuasion issue"?
    I thought it was about the definition of Heresy and people having a double standard for using the term.

    Your rant isn't really about "the compulsion versus persuasion issue", but is is an excellent on-topic illustration of someone exercising a "double standard". :)

    Kick that strawman again! Kick it once for me!
     
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    God from all eternity did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass : yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of Yankee Fans, nor is violence offered to the will of New Yorkers; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.
     
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    At the same time we have to recognize that this is not the fault of God as He also provided New York with the Met's. So their guilt is on their own heads.
     
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    If I tell you I’ll have to kill you
     
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