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On the wrath of God being poured on Christ....

timdabap

Member
I am just glad that my eternal salvation is NEVER dependent on what anyone believes including myself, or any man, but on God's mercy and grace.
One day my Savior will take me home, either thru the doors of physical death, or by meeting Him in the air, and on that day, every little question I have will be answered.
Until that day happens, I will preach and teach that the wrath of God, intended for sinners, was laid upon Christ, whom God made to be sin, in His people's stead, that God loathes sin, and at the cross that loathing was upon Christ, representing every last one of His sinful people (Galatians 2:20).
That every bit of flesh torn by the Roman whip was meant for me, every spittle that flowed down His face from those whose mouths He created, He took on my behalf, that every thorn that caused pain on His brow and head, was expressive of the wrath of God for sin, that every drop of blood from all the wounds He received washed my sins away.
And that of every sin of everyone of His people, including those who say, 'no wrath'.
 

agedman

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I am just glad that my eternal salvation is NEVER dependent on what anyone believes including myself, or any man, but on God's mercy and grace.
One day my Savior will take me home, either thru the doors of physical death, or by meeting Him in the air, and on that day, every little question I have will be answered.
Until that day happens, I will preach and teach that the wrath of God, intended for sinners, was laid upon Christ, whom God made to be sin, in His people's stead, that God loathes sin, and at the cross that loathing was upon Christ, representing every last one of His sinful people (Galatians 2:20).
That every bit of flesh torn by the Roman whip was meant for me, every spittle that flowed down His face from those whose mouths He created, He took on my behalf, that every thorn that caused pain on His brow and head, was expressive of the wrath of God for sin, that every drop of blood from all the wounds He received washed my sins away.
And that of every sin of everyone of His people, including those who say, 'no wrath'.

That all sounds so very good and emotionally stimulating, but it isn't all the truth found in Scriptures.

Perhaps, you might demonstrate your skill by presenting Scripture passages that support your thinking.

Perhaps start with to whom is the wrath of God appointed as found in Romans. And from that list show in what manner Christ was also to be included.

Then, perhaps, you might want to explain just how Christ was made a sinner by God in place of His people.

Of course, we need to read the Scriptures stating that God loathed sin, and such loathing was also toward the Christ.

Then, for sure and certain, address the issue of how the blood washed away the sins.

This is just an outline.

Please don't dump the whole load in one post. Rather, let's take each one and explore the Scripture proof that is available.

I am certain others will want to join in, so help to keep it all civil and edifying.

Looking forward to your posts.
 

timdabap

Member
That all sounds so very good and emotionally stimulating, but it isn't all the truth found in Scriptures.

Perhaps, you might demonstrate your skill by presenting Scripture passages that support your thinking.

Perhaps start with to whom is the wrath of God appointed as found in Romans. And from that list show in what manner Christ was also to be included.

Then, perhaps, you might want to explain just how Christ was made a sinner by God in place of His people.

Of course, we need to read the Scriptures stating that God loathed sin, and such loathing was also toward the Christ.

Then, for sure and certain, address the issue of how the blood washed away the sins.

This is just an outline.

Please don't dump the whole load in one post. Rather, let's take each one and explore the Scripture proof that is available.

I am certain others will want to join in, so help to keep it all civil and edifying.

Looking forward to your posts.

Am I going to hell, sin unwashed, unforgiven because I believe different from you, as to whom the wrath of God was laid ?
 

agedman

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Am I going to hell, sin unwashed, unforgiven because I believe different from you, as to whom the wrath of God was laid ?
Why would you assume such a meaning from my post.

Do you not desire to actually explore the security of your thinking?

If not, then why did you start the thread?
 

timdabap

Member
It was a simple question, agedman.
Answer it.
And since you are the first one I encountered with such an idea, and I have challenged it this way because I think it runs counter to what the majority believes, why don't you first lay down your arguments, first, then I will mine.
 

agedman

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It was a simple question, agedman.
Answer it.
And since you are the first one I encountered with such an idea, and I have challenged it this way because I think it runs counter to what the majority believes, why don't you first lay down your arguments, first, then I will mine.

Ok, do you want me to lay out philosophy, Scripture or both?
 

percho

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Is there a difference in the sin singular, he was made to be, relative to our sins plural, that were laid in him?
 
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