One black guy I can respect....

[pinoybaptist]

So, the "protestors" stormed a restaurant they say is "mostly white" and disturbs patrons eating brunch so they can rattle off names of blacks they compiled they say have been killed by police.
I googled a name and the officer in that case has been charged and is now on desk duty, unarmed.
I wonder about the rest of the names ?
were they all innocent ?

Then I read about a 100-year old vet being awarded a medal whose ceremony was again invaded by "protestors" just so they can show their righteous indignation at the deaths of black.

Now, these are people who will demand respect and shoot off the word like nothing, yet unable to show the respect they so demand.
Like gangstas who'd shoot you for "disrespecting" them when they hardly know what the word means and how it's applied.

Which brings me to THIS GENT HERE who knows 'the life' and will do anything to make sure his kid stays out of that 'life'.

Hats off to him.

Warning: not very nice language, though.

 

[Zaac]

Lord have mercy! You found a black man you can respect. SMH.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Lord have mercy! You found a black man you can respect. SMH.

And on top of that, notice that there is a requirement for this person to "respect" another human. All when God said to love even your enemies.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

While the O/P deserves plenty of criticism, there is no biblical command to respect our enemies. I can have christian love for people I don't respect.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Blessing your enemies would require an amount of respect and love toward them, that they are also God's creation. Unless you bless your enemies with a grudge, then you have a double mind and have way deeper problems with your own heart, and should be seeking his righteousness before you go about others.

 

[Zaac]

And on top of that, notice that there is a requirement for this person to "respect" another human. All when God said to love even your enemies.

It's sad and crazy. That's why I've said that people on here and throughout the Baptist church don't seem to realize how much their politics has influenced their spiritual lives. And how that makes their lives look less and less like Christ and more and more like the world.

I mean seriously , what Christian makes a comment like

One black guy I can respect....

without thinking "you know there are a lot of white people out there doing all sorts of crazy things but I'm not casting that upon all white people to the point that I don't have many white people I can respect".

Can God's people really think there's no problem in saying stuff like that?

 

[Zaac]

Blessing your enemies would require an amount of respect and love toward them, that they are also God's creation. Unless you bless your enemies with a grudge, then you have a double mind and have way deeper problems with your own heart, and should be seeking his righteousness before you go about others.

:applause: Absolutely. If you don't have a modicum of respect for every other person alive just because they are part of God's creation and possibly in need of salvation, it's gonna be awfully difficult to humble yourself enough to get past that disrespect to point someone to Christ.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Blessing your enemies would require an amount of respect and love toward them, that they are also God's creation.

Absolutely not. Makes no sense to combine the two. Criticize the post on it's own merit.

Unless you bless your enemies with a grudge, then you have a double mind and have way deeper problems with your own heart, and should be seeking his righteousness before you go about others.

Pfffft. Pabulum.

Stick to the O/P.

the guy has finally found a black man he can respect. His own words should be enough.

Unless you want to talk of why you consider the black man your enemy ?

 

[carpro]

Finally?

I don't have to look far to find black men...and women...I respect. I work with them every day.

I knew some as Marines in the turbulent 60's as well. Disliked some of their politics, but put my life in their hands on a daily basis. Never regretted it.

Went to high school with some that are still my friends and well respected in the community today.

Finally? Maybe you just mis-spoke in the OP.

 

[righteousdude2]

Finally?

I don't have to look far to find black men...and women...I respect. I work with them every day.

I knew some as Marines in the turbulent 60's as well. Disliked some of their politics, but put my life in their hands on a daily basis. Never regretted it.

Went to high school with some that are still my friends and well respected in the community today.

Finally? Maybe you just mis-spoke in the OP.

Agreed. I can honestly say that I know as many black folks as white, red and brown that I have deep respect for and a good relationship with!

The color of the skin has never been an issue with me. If the person deserves respect, they will get it. All others are loved, because when you get beyond the color of a persons skin, we see the handiwork of of a creative God, a God that wants us to love one another. After all, we are all, when born again, members of the extended family of God!

Although, I do think I know what the OP is saying. And like me, he just didn't do a good job of saying it. And ALL of us have been guilty of doing just that. Not saying something that makes sense to everyone else! :thumbsup:


BTW - taking over restaurants, and "white spaces" as the protesters call it, is jumping the shark! In other words, they have crossed the line, and this is going to hurt their cause!

 

[Zaac]

Finally?

I don't have to look far to find black men...and women...I respect. I work with them every day.

I knew some as Marines in the turbulent 60's as well. Disliked some of their politics, but put my life in their hands on a daily basis. Never regretted it.

Went to high school with some that are still my friends and well respected in the community today.

Finally? Maybe you just mis-spoke in the OP.

I would like to believe that to be the case. But the systemically racially prejudiced and racist narrative, that's been pushed by certain individuals and groups on the right, tells me that's not the case.

The narrative wants to pathologize black men a certain way so that people can feel okay ascribing certain characteristics to all black men.

After all, when poor folks or people of color engage in criminal activity — including, in general, a disproportionate share of lethal street violence — everybody and his mother has a theory. But not just a theory but an analysis that in one way or the other implicates something cultural.

If folks are honest and paying attention, they'll see these things. It's again hilariously sad.

For the right, it’s the culture of poverty, or perhaps some specific aspect of “black culture” — about which they know nothing or very little about but about which they also feel utterly qualified to speak — while for the left it’s the culture of systemic inequality, of economic marginality, or the cumulative weight of institutional injustices.

But when white people, and especially those from stable and even well-off economic backgrounds go off the deep end in a manner often far more crazy, indiscriminate, and world shattering than even the most determined street "thug", it is then that the value of the broader cultural critique vanishes faster than ethical judgment by the crooks in Congress, to be replaced by a far more INDIVIDUALISTIC analysis.

It becomes the guns in that kids home, or the video games he played, or the Asperger’s, or the bullying, or he was a loner, or watched violent movies, or whatever.

So yes, I'd like to hope that he misspoke. But the narrative tells me that he has pathologized black men to be a certain something just as systemic racial prejudice and racism has trained him to.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I would like to believe that to be the case. But the systemically racially prejudiced and racist narrative, that's been pushed by certain individuals and groups on the right, tells me that's not the case.

The narrative wants to pathologize black men a certain way so that people can feel okay ascribing certain characteristics to all black men.

After all, when poor folks or people of color engage in criminal activity — including, in general, a disproportionate share of lethal street violence — everybody and his mother has a theory. But not just a theory but an analysis that in one way or the other implicates something cultural.

If folks are honest and paying attention, they'll see these things. It's again hilariously sad.

For the right, it’s the culture of poverty, or perhaps some specific aspect of “black culture” — about which they know nothing or very little about but about which they also feel utterly qualified to speak — while for the left it’s the culture of systemic inequality, of economic marginality, or the cumulative weight of institutional injustices.

But when white people, and especially those from stable and even well-off economic backgrounds go off the deep end in a manner often far more crazy, indiscriminate, and world shattering than even the most determined street "thug", it is then that the value of the broader cultural critique vanishes faster than ethical judgment by the crooks in Congress, to be replaced by a far more INDIVIDUALISTIC analysis.

It becomes the guns in that kids home, or the video games he played, or the Asperger’s, or the bullying, or he was a loner, or watched violent movies, or whatever.

So yes, I'd like to hope that he misspoke. But the narrative tells me that he has pathologized black men to be a certain something just as systemic racial prejudice and racism has trained him to.

Oh really!?! You must be some kinda social race engineer sent here to look for signs of racial profile proclivities? come on!

 

[Revmitchell]

I would like to believe that to be the case. But the systemically racially prejudiced and racist narrative, that's been pushed by certain individuals and groups on the right, tells me that's not the case.

The narrative wants to pathologize black men a certain way so that people can feel okay ascribing certain characteristics to all black men.

After all, when poor folks or people of color engage in criminal activity — including, in general, a disproportionate share of lethal street violence — everybody and his mother has a theory. But not just a theory but an analysis that in one way or the other implicates something cultural.

If folks are honest and paying attention, they'll see these things. It's again hilariously sad.

For the right, it’s the culture of poverty, or perhaps some specific aspect of “black culture” — about which they know nothing or very little about but about which they also feel utterly qualified to speak — while for the left it’s the culture of systemic inequality, of economic marginality, or the cumulative weight of institutional injustices.

But when white people, and especially those from stable and even well-off economic backgrounds go off the deep end in a manner often far more crazy, indiscriminate, and world shattering than even the most determined street "thug", it is then that the value of the broader cultural critique vanishes faster than ethical judgment by the crooks in Congress, to be replaced by a far more INDIVIDUALISTIC analysis.

It becomes the guns in that kids home, or the video games he played, or the Asperger’s, or the bullying, or he was a loner, or watched violent movies, or whatever.

So yes, I'd like to hope that he misspoke. But the narrative tells me that he has pathologized black men to be a certain something just as systemic racial prejudice and racism has trained him to.

Just so everyone knows here is the link Zaac plagiarized this post from:


http://www.timwise.org/2012/12/race...mass-murder-and-the-pathologies-of-privilege/

 

[Zaac]

Oh really!?! You must be some kinda social race engineer sent here to look for signs of racial profile proclivities? come on!

:laugh: This board is just a micro version of what's going on in America, and unfortunately in the church.

Call me whatever you want. It doesn't change what's happening.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

While the O/P deserves plenty of criticism, there is no biblical command to respect our enemies. I can have christian love for people I don't respect.

I would also point out that loving your enemies doesn't necessarily mean liking them or approving of their behavior.

 

[Zaac]

I would also point out that loving your enemies doesn't necessarily mean liking them or approving of their behavior.

I often ask, isn't love greater than like? So why do so many folks think they can love someone without liking them in some fashion?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Just so everyone knows here is the link Zaac plagiarized this post from:


http://www.timwise.org/2012/12/race...mass-murder-and-the-pathologies-of-privilege/

Thank you for posting this.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

I often ask, isn't love greater than like?

Isn't baseball greater than pancakes?

So why do so many folks think they can love someone without liking them in some fashion?

Category fallacy. Love and like are two different things.

To like something is to have an affinity or affection for something.

 

[Zaac]

Isn't baseball greater than pancakes?



Category fallacy. Love and like are two different things.

To like something is to have an affinity or affection for something.

I didn't say they were categorically the same things. Don't you have to have an affinity or affection for something if you love it too?

 

[matt wade]

Just so everyone knows here is the link Zaac plagiarized this post from:


http://www.timwise.org/2012/12/race...mass-murder-and-the-pathologies-of-privilege/

Maybe Zaac is Tim Wise?