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one more day: Trump +5 LAT, +2 IBD

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Zaac

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yeah it kind of reminds me of Hillary getting investigated for selling the State Dept. and mishandling classified information.

Ain't too many people except hypocritical "Christians" worried about a bunch of emails. When you find the millions that the Bush Administration "lost", get back to me about emails.
 

Calminian

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Make sure that you've got someone to help pick you up off the floor.

awfully confident about a woman that can't fill up banquet room and is losing last elections "most accurate poll." I mean I think Trump can win, even big, but you're off the charts confident. What if she loses?
 

Calminian

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Ain't too many people except hypocritical "Christians" worried about a bunch of emails......

And there you have it. Don't let Zaac fool you. He's not just anti-Trump, he's pro-Hillary. He's not one of those Christians wary of both, he's in Hillary tank 100% stumping for her, hoping she'll win. Everyone should know who their getting in bed with here.
 

Benjamin

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awfully confident about a woman that can't fill up banquet room and is losing last elections "most accurate poll." I mean I think Trump can win, even big, but you're off the charts confident. What if she loses?
Kind of sounds like a disfranchised Pentecostalism prediction by him, doesn't it? ;)
 

Zaac

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awfully confident about a woman that can't fill up banquet room and is losing last elections "most accurate poll." I mean I think Trump can win, even big, but you're off the charts confident. What if she loses?


She won't lose and you and folks like you will play a huge role in that.
 

Zaac

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And there you have it. Don't let Zaac fool you. He's not just anti-Trump, he's pro-Hillary.
If I'm anti-Trump and pro-Hillary, Then you're pro-Trump and anti-Christ

He's not one of those Christians wary of both, he's in Hillary tank 100% stumping for her, hoping she'll win. Everyone should know who their getting in bed with here.

Trumpers seem to think if they tell a lie enough times that folks with God-sense are gonna believe it.:rolleyes: Y'all must have learned that from the one you want to be your king.
 

InTheLight

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Here is some final polling I found from Wikipedia on the 1980 election.

Reagan......Carter
40%...........44%
39%...........45%
47%...........44%

Notice the sudden correction of polls at the last minute. This is all October polling. Cater was winning most of the time. Kind of reminds me of modern polls.
Actual result Reagan 51% Carter 41% Reagan wins by 10 pt. blowout.

That last poll was taken after the one and only debate between Reagan and Carter. That was an event that changed minds, garnered votes for Reagan. What's Trump done in the last week that will equivalently change minds in his favor? Nothing. However, Clinton was just exonerated by the FBI for her emails.

Also, very important.
In 1980 Reagan won the election, winning 44 states with 56% of the white vote.
In 2012 Romney lost the election, winning 24 states with 59% of the white vote. (And a higher percent of whites voted in 2012 than in 1980.)
Every four years the percentage of white voters goes down 2 percentage points. Every four years the percentage of Hispanic voters increases.

In 2012 Romney received 27% of the Hispanic vote.
In 2016 Trump is polling at less than 20% of the Hispanic vote, and there is a higher percent of Hispanic voters in 2016 than there was in 2012.
 

Calminian

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That last poll was taken after the one and only debate between Reagan and Carter. That was an event that changed minds, garnered votes for Reagan. What's Trump done in the last week that will equivalently change minds in his favor? Nothing. However, Clinton was just exonerated by the FBI for her emails.

Also, very important.
In 1980 Reagan won the election, winning 44 states with 56% of the white vote.
In 2012 Romney lost the election, winning 24 states with 59% of the white vote. (And a higher percent of whites voted in 2012 than in 1980.)
Every four years the percentage of white voters goes down 2 percentage points. Every four years the percentage of Hispanic voters increases.

In 2012 Romney received 27% of the Hispanic vote.
In 2016 Trump is polling at less than 20% of the Hispanic vote, and there is a higher percent of Hispanic voters in 2016 than there was in 2012.

Well then you just keep praying for Hillary, ITL. I'm sure you'll be ecstatic if she wins.
 

InTheLight

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Well then you just keep praying for Hillary, ITL. I'm sure you'll be ecstatic if she wins.

Ah yes. Your fallback position when you have no rebuttal. Understand it must be frustrating to be supporting an immoral man that revels in his sin.
 

StefanM

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This is hitting Soviet-style propaganda levels.

Clinton is going to win. She's not going to win in a landslide, but she's going to win.

Wanting your candidate to win doesn't make a difference.
 

777

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That last poll was taken after the one and only debate between Reagan and Carter. That was an event that changed minds, garnered votes for Reagan. What's Trump done in the last week that will equivalently change minds in his favor? Nothing. However, Clinton was just exonerated by the FBI for her emails.

Also, very important.
In 1980 Reagan won the election, winning 44 states with 56% of the white vote.
In 2012 Romney lost the election, winning 24 states with 59% of the white vote. (And a higher percent of whites voted in 2012 than in 1980.)
Every four years the percentage of white voters goes down 2 percentage points. Every four years the percentage of Hispanic voters increases.

In 2012 Romney received 27% of the Hispanic vote.
In 2016 Trump is polling at less than 20% of the Hispanic vote, and there is a higher percent of Hispanic voters in 2016 than there was in 2012.

Okay, I STILL can't call this election and maybe I'm better off if I don't. Not so sure the FBI did more harm than good with that.

I'd rather address this demographic argument you make. Sure, Mitt got more a percentage of the white vote than Reagan did in '80 but you should be careful using a demographic of this magnitude - it can be so distorted in the popular vote. Mitt probably got at least 95% of the white vote in Utah and Alabama, but he actually lost the white vote in some swing state - Iowa (48 percent) and Wisconsin (49 percent), New Hampshire (48 percent), Maine (42 percent) and he got a slim majority of the white vote in Colorado (52 percent), Michigan (53 percent), Ohio (54 percent) and Pennsylvania (54 percent) and he managed to lose all of these states, heh.

Don't care for demographic predictions because it's too dependent on turnout and we'll see soon about that.
 

Calminian

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This is hitting Soviet-style propaganda levels.

Clinton is going to win. She's not going to win in a landslide, but she's going to win.

Wanting your candidate to win doesn't make a difference.

LOL! citing the most accurate poll last election is propaganda. You guys are a riot.
 

InTheLight

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I'd rather address this demographic argument you make. Sure, Mitt got more a percentage of the white vote than Reagan did in '80 but you should be careful using a demographic of this magnitude - it can be so distorted in the popular vote. Mitt probably got at least 95% of the white vote in Utah and Alabama, but he actually lost the white vote in some swing state - Iowa (48 percent) and Wisconsin (49 percent), New Hampshire (48 percent), Maine (42 percent) and he got a slim majority of the white vote in Colorado (52 percent), Michigan (53 percent), Ohio (54 percent) and Pennsylvania (54 percent) and he managed to lose all of these states, heh.

Romney lost these states despite winning a majority of white voters--this is the sort of facts and data that does not bode well for Trump. Trump's going to lose Colorado, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and it won't matter how many white votes he gets. He will likely be the first Republican to win Ohio and lose the election.
 

Jerome

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UPI article from 1980:
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Two days later, Reagan won New York 47% to Carter's 44%
 
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