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One of the most evil speeches made in history

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mandym

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In the July 17 speech, Obama attacked the Supreme Court decision that upheld the federal partial-birth abortion ban and the nomination of Supreme Court justices who favor overturning Roe v. Wade. In the speech the senator said, "There will always be people, many of goodwill, who do not share my view on the issue of choice. On this fundamental issue, I will not yield and Planned Parenthood will not yield."
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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...enthood_i_will_not_yield_to_prolife_concerns/
 
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OldRegular

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So Obama is a wicked man. As far as I am concerned anyone who supports the slaughter of the unborn is wicked!
 
SolaSaint

SolaSaint

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We often hear conservatives say they will hoold their noses and vote for Romney, you know the lesser of two evils. My question for those Christian liberals and Dems, do you consider it holding your nose to vote for Obama? Do you consider Obama a lesser evil than Romney, if so please explain how voting for a candidate who supports murder in the womb an okay thing to do.

Personally I cannot understand how any Christian could vote for such a blatant proponent of abortion. I still cannot believe he is our Prez? As I've always said, we don't live in the same country I grew up in. It is a sad time we live in.
 
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billwald

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Supporting aborting is evil but voting to cut funds to help single mothers raise their kids is good Christian/capitalistic economic policy. After all, Jesus prophesied that the world would never run out of poor people. Helping poor people must be unChristian.
 
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mandym

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SolaSaint said:
We often hear conservatives say they will hoold their noses and vote for Romney, you know the lesser of two evils. My question for those Christian liberals and Dems, do you consider it holding your nose to vote for Obama? Do you consider Obama a lesser evil than Romney, if so please explain how voting for a candidate who supports murder in the womb an okay thing to do.

Personally I cannot understand how any Christian could vote for such a blatant proponent of abortion. I still cannot believe he is our Prez? As I've always said, we don't live in the same country I grew up in. It is a sad time we live in.
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There has been an attempt on this board to explain that. It was a poor attempt but it has been tried.
 
Zaac

Zaac

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SolaSaint said:
We often hear conservatives say they will hoold their noses and vote for Romney, you know the lesser of two evils. My question for those Christian liberals and Dems, do you consider it holding your nose to vote for Obama? Do you consider Obama a lesser evil than Romney, if so please explain how voting for a candidate who supports murder in the womb an okay thing to do.

Personally I cannot understand how any Christian could vote for such a blatant proponent of abortion. I still cannot believe he is our Prez? As I've always said, we don't live in the same country I grew up in. It is a sad time we live in.
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Abortion vs worship a false god. If Christians can force themselves to vote for a man who worships a false god, I guess they can force themselves to vote for a man who is pro-abortion.

Neither would have happened with Christians 30 years ago.
 
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targus

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Zaac said:
Abortion vs worship a false god. If Christians can force themselves to vote for a man who worships a false god, I guess they can force themselves to vote for a man who is pro-abortion.
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Ok - let's look at the difference here.

Romney's worship of a false god effects his eternal fate. He alone will answer to God. Voting for Romney doesn't mean that I worship a false god or am complicite in anyone else worshiping a false god. I doubt that anyone is going to convert to Romney's false beliefs simply because Romney became President - even if my single vote were the deciding factor.

Obama too will have to answer to God for the murder of the unborn - especially the unborn that were murdered as a result of his additional funding and as a result of his support for abortion - vocal and otherwise.

And by supporting Obama some others will also have to answer to God for those murdered unborn that otherwise might have lived were it not for the actions of Obama in office possible only because he was elected.

Not voting for the only candidate this election that will keep Obama out of office is something that some may have to answer to God for too.

What is the difference between taking an action that results in the murder of the unborn and not taking the only action that may have prevented it?

Answer - none.
 
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mandym

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targus said:
Ok - let's look at the difference here.

Romney's worship of a false god effects his eternal fate. He alone will answer to God. Voting for Romney doesn't mean that I worship a false god or am complicite in anyone else worshiping a false god. I doubt that anyone is going to convert to Romney's false beliefs simply because Romney became President - even if my single vote were the deciding factor.

Obama too will have to answer to God for the murder of the unborn - especially the unborn that were murdered as a result of his additional funding and as a result of his support for abortion - vocal and otherwise.

And by supporting Obama some others will also have to answer to God for those murdered unborn that otherwise might have lived were it not for the actions of Obama in office possible only because he was elected.

Not voting for the only candidate this election that will keep Obama out of office is something that some may have to answer to God for too.

What is the difference between taking an action that results in the murder of the unborn and not taking the only action that may have prevented it?

Answer - none.
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No reasonable person thought that needed explanation. Although you are dead on.
 
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LadyEagle

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billwald said:
Supporting aborting is evil but voting to cut funds to help single mothers raise their kids is good Christian/capitalistic economic policy. After all, Jesus prophesied that the world would never run out of poor people. Helping poor people must be unChristian.
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Abortion is black genocide. Most abortions are performed on blacks.

So does that make Obama racist?
 
InTheLight

InTheLight

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SolaSaint said:
Personally I cannot understand how any Christian could vote for such a blatant proponent of abortion.
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The rationale used by others is that the President cannot overturn Roe v. Wade, it would take the Supreme Court to do that. Well, yeah...and the President appoints justices to the Supreme Court. Therefore, if you ever want to see Roe v. Wade overturned you need to vote for a President that would appoint pro-life justices.

So the rationale is empty. I can see where this rationalization might work at the state level, but not at that national level.
 
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mandym

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Atlanta, GA (LifeNews.com) -- The new report the Centers for Disease Control released this week about annual abortion figures in the United States shows abortions continue to target black women moreso than other ethnic groups. The 2004 report also shows about 10 percent of all abortions in the United States are done with the dangerous RU 486 abortion drug. The CDC shows a majority of women who get abortions are white (53 percent) compared with 35 percent done on African-Americans, 8 percent on women of other ethnic backgrounds and the race of the woman was unknown in four percent of the cases. However, the abortion ratio for black women (472 per 1,000 live births) was 2.9 times higher than the ratio for white women (161 per 1,000). Examined another way, nearly half of all pregnancies among black women end in abortion while just 16 percent of pregnancies among while women end in abortion. The abortion rate for black women (28 per 1,000 women) was 2.8 times the rate for white women (10 per 1,000) -- meaning a much greater percentage. Those statistics continue to worry pro-life leaders in the African-American community. On 27 reporting areas adequately obtained abortion stats by ethnicity and those areas showed that 19 percent of the women getting abortions were Hispanic -- with a low of 0.6% in Mississippi to a high of 50% in New Mexico. For Hispanic women in these reporting areas, the abortion ratio was 211 per 1,000 live births, and the abortion rate w as 26 per 1,000 women. However, only 46% of Hispanic women in the United States resided in these reporting areas.
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http://blackgenocide.org/archived_articles/cdc_black_abortions.html
 
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Magnetic Poles

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LadyEagle said:
Huh? Blacks have the highest percentage of abortions by race and thus, most abortions are performed on blacks. Check the stats.

www.blackgenocide.org
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You just failed math with that one. :wavey:

Think about it. If blacks are, for the sake of discussion, 10% of the population and they get a higher percentage than any other race, the raw numbers are probably higher for a majority race.

Think about this. If there are 100 people in a group. Ten percent black, five percent hispanic, five percent other, 80 percent white. Even if 50 percent of blacks have an abortion that means that 5 of them did. If only 10 percent of whites got an abortion, that means 8 of them did.

Read Mandy's link to that site. Majority are on white women
 
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