Original Sin and its imputation on the human race

[Winman]

Winman,
The purpose of confessions and creeds is to help people from drifting off into error. That is why I post them.
If you believed the historic confessions you would not repeatedly post this error ,over and over again;



This has been answered many times,and clearly 1cor 15;22 puts an end to your false idea;


a square is a rhombus, but a rhombus is not necessarily a square......
how is that quantum???????

You pull 1 Cor 15:22 out of context. This is speaking of physical death and the resurrection of our physical bodies, that is the theme of this entire chapter. If you were a real scholar you would know this, you misrepresent and misapply scripture.

 

[Amy.G]

I found this article on original sin at Answers in Genesis.org. I thought it might be of interest in this discussion.

From the article:

In a discussion like this, it is good to keep in mind that there are many mysteries and secrets that belong to God. Even these explanations merely touch the surface and require years of research and books to cover this difficult topic. But the hope is that this short overview gives some food for thought.

LINK

 

[HankD]

That is figurative, not literal....however Ephesians 2:1 is quite literal and straight forward.

What's the difference?
How are they different?

Paul is showing the quite literal superiority of Christ's priesthood over Levi's.

HankD

 

[webdog]

What's the difference?
How are they different?

Paul is showing the quite literal superiority of Christ's priesthood over Levi's.

HankD

Not sure what you are asking...what is the diference between literal and figurative?

Scripture tells us quite literally how we die in Ephesians and James 1. We don't die literally in Adam or figuratively. We die as Adam died, by sinning (James 1:14-15)

 

[Cypress]

I found this article on original sin at Answers in Genesis.org. I thought it might be of interest in this discussion.

From the article:

LINK

Thanks Amy.....good comparisons:love2:

 

[HankD]

Not sure what you are asking...what is the diference between literal and figurative?

Scripture tells us quite literally how we die in Ephesians and James 1. We don't die literally in Adam or figuratively. We die as Adam died, by sinning (James 1:14-15)

I am just saying that since Levi paid tithes to Melkisedek "while in Abrahams loins" it is not simply a figurative thing when it comes to the scriptural evaluation of the superiority of the two priesthoods.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:​

Past tense from Adam on down to you and I.​

It would seem that we were there (in God's view) when Adam sinned.​

When we pass through this life the Holy Spirit convicts us of this fact because we ourselves are slaves to sin.

We are that way because of Adam.

HankD​

 

[webdog]

I see it as past tense (anyone who can sin has), just not from Adam to us.
Not sure its wise to explain a text on death and sin using the superiority of a priesthood line.

The context of that vere is death not sin. If we all died in Adam Ephesians 2 and james 1 are false in describing personal accountability and spiritual death

 

[Winman]

I am just saying that since Levi paid tithes to Melkisedek "while in Abrahams loins" it is not simply a figurative thing when it comes to the scriptural evaluation of the superiority of the two priesthoods.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:​

Past tense from Adam on down to you and I.​

It would seem that we were there (in God's view) when Adam sinned.​

When we pass through this life the Holy Spirit convicts us of this fact because we ourselves are slaves to sin.

We are that way because of Adam.

HankD​

Hank, let's put it this way, if you have heard this verse and are old enough to understand it, trust me, you have sinned past tense.

 

[HankD]

Hank, let's put it this way, if you have heard this verse and are old enough to understand it, trust me, you have sinned past tense.

In Adam.

But yes, I put my present tense stamp of approval on Adam's sin when I myself sinned proving (IMO) that I was a sinner all along.

But Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners...

We can all agree and rejoice in that.


HankD

 

[Winman]

In Adam.

But yes, I put my present tense stamp of approval on Adam's sin when I myself sinned proving (IMO) that I was a sinner all along.

But Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners...

We can all agree and rejoice in that.


HankD

When Isaiah said like sheep we have all gone astray, this is not speaking of Adam's sin, but our own personal sins, yet he also says it in the past tense. Does this mean it does not apply in the present? No, and nobody would make that argument. You only make this argument to support OS.

 

[HankD]

When Isaiah said like sheep we have all gone astray, this is not speaking of Adam's sin, but our own personal sins, yet he also says it in the past tense. Does this mean it does not apply in the present? No, and nobody would make that argument. You only make this argument to support OS.

OK. But just to let you know there is no past tense in biblical Hebrew.

HankD