OT Law

But we are only dead to it through the body and blood of Christ of which the world don't have. After we receive Christ into our lives raised from a dead state of sin and made alive in Christ Jesus, then are we free from that Law because the righteous of that Law is fulfilled in us. When it says Jesus fulfilled the Law, it does not mean that was the end of it but only that He fulfilled the things written in the books of Moses and Psalms concerning Him, which He was to die for us.

 

I am very strongly nonsabbatarian, nor do I think there is any particular day in which we must convocate. But this is a verse which does not have relevance to the debate. One thing not allowed on the Jewish sabbath was to carry money, so this neither proves nor disproves anything about their regular meetings, and less so as to requirements.

 

Thanks for the input Aresman. I never addressed the subject you are talking about. Your post is irrelevant to the subject of our keeping the Sabbath.

 

We are close to agreement on this Brother Bob, but the Law is fulfilled in Him, and not us. We through the law are dead to the law as we are crucified with Christ. He lives in us and if our righteousness comes by the law, then we frustrate the grace of God - Galatians 2:19-21.

 

But Alcott the reference in I Cor. above is to the first day of the week, not the Sabbath. This is the Christians of the "Body Church" gospel, and not those of the Jerusalem church, the "Kingdom Church" gospel of the Sabbath covenant.

 

True. If they did, in fact, meet on the 7th day and observed its restrictions, then they would not have money to give to any collection on that day, so they may do it the next available day. On the other hand, how many times could they [early Christians in the Roman world, many, perhaps most, of whom were slaves] meet together for any purpose. Finally, I don't know how workers/servants were paid at that time, but perhaps this reference to a day in the week is nothing but a day in which they would be expected to have something (however small it may be) to contribute, or put aside.

However, and arguably most significant, nothing is said about meeting together anyway; just 'lay in store.'

 

Came across these on the web thought they were applicipable to this post.
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There are 1,050 commands in the New Testament for Christians to obey. They cover every phase of man's life in his relationship to God and his fellowmen, now and hereafter. If obeyed, they will bring rich rewards here and forever; if disobeyed, they will bring condemnation (earthly) and eternal loss of rewards. They are not to be confused with the 10 commandments (Great Commandments) which were abolished with the law of Moses (603 addistional laws).

Although we are not under the law but under grace, why did God give us these? Was He just kidding? Why did Jesus say in John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments"?

Please note:


Seven "Abstains"—Abstain From:
1. Idols (Acts 15:20).
2. Fornication (Acts 15:20,29; 1 Thes. 4:2-3)
3. Strangled meats (Acts 15:20)
4. Eating blood (Acts 15:20)
5. Meats offered to idols (Acts 15:29)
6. All appearance of evil (1 Thes. 5:22)
7. Fleshly lusts (1 Peter 2:11)

Seven things to avoid:
1. Troublemakers (Romans 16:17)
2. Profane and vain babblings (1 Tim. 6:20)
3. False science (1 Tim. 6:20)
4. Unlearned questions (2 Tim. 2:23)
5. Foolish questions (Titus 3:9)
6. Genealogies (Titus 3:9)
7. Arguments about the law (Titus 3:9):BangHead:

Three "Asks":
1. Ask and ye shall receive (Matthew 7:7)
2. Ask no return of goods (Luke 6:30)
3. Ask life for backsliders (1 John 5:16)

Two things to awake to:
1. Awake to righteousness (1 Cor. 15:34)
2. Awake to life (Ephes. 5:14)

Seventy-four "Be's":
1. Be exceeding glad (Matthew 5:12)
2. Be reconciled to a brother (Matthew 5:24)
3. Be perfect (Matthew 5:48; 2 Cor. 13:11)
4. Be wise as serpents (Matthew 10:16)
5. Be harmless as doves (Matthew 10:16)
6. Be ready for Christ's coming (Matthew 24:44; Luke 12:40)
7. Be content with your wages (Luke 3:14)
8. Be merciful as God (Luke 6:36)
9. Be like faithful servants (Luke 12:36)
10. Be thankful (Col. 3:15)
11. Be at peace among selves (1 Thes. 5:13)
12. Be patient toward all people (1 Thes. 5:14; 2 Tim. 2:24)
13. Be no partaker of sin (1 Tim. 5:22)
14. Be sober and hope (1 Peter 1:13)
15. Be sober and pray (1 Peter 4:7)
16. Be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, charity, and patience (aged men, Titus 2:2)
17. Be sober, love husbands and children (young women, Titus 2:4)
18. Be sober minded (young men, Titus 2:6)
19. Be in behavior as becoming to saints (aged women, Titus 2:3)
20. Be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient (young women, Titus 2:5)
21. Be ready to give an answer of the hope that is in you (1 Peter 3:15)
22. Be of good cheer (John 16:33)
23. Be baptized (Acts 2:38)
24. Be converted (Acts 3:19)
25. Be transformed (Romans 12:2)
26. Be kind of brotherly love one to another (Romans 12:10; Ephes. 4:32)
27. Be fervent in spirit (Romans 12:11)
28. Be patient in tribulation (Romans 12:12)
29. Be given to hospitality (Romans 12:13)
30. Be afraid, if lawless (Romans 13:4)
31. Be no idolater (1 Cor. 10:7)
32. Be followers of Paul as he followed Christ (1 Cor. 11:1; Phil. 3:17)
33. Be followers of God (Ephes. 5:1)
34. Be followers of the faithful and patient (Hebrews 6:12)
35. Be children in malice (1 Cor. 14:20)
36. Be men in understanding (1 Cor. 14:20)
37. Be stedfast (1 Cor. 15:58)
38. Be unmoveable (1 Cor. 15:58)
39. Be always abounding in God's work (1 Cor. 15:58)
40. Be strong in the Lord (1 Cor. 16:13; Ephes. 6:10; 2 Tim. 2:1)
41. Be of good comfort (2 Cor. 13:11)
42. Be of one mind (Romans 12:16; 2 Cor. 13:11; Phil. 2:2; 1 Peter 3:8)
43. Be separate from the unclean (2 Cor. 6:17)
44. Be renewed in spirit (Ephes. 4:23)
45. Be angry and sin not (Ephes. 4:26)
46. Be tenderhearted one to another (Ephes. 4:32)
47. Be filled with the Spirit (Ephes. 5:18)
48. Be likeminded (Phil. 2:2)
49. Be one of accord (Phil. 2:2)
50. Be anxious for nothing (Phil. 4:6)
51. Be an example to believers in word, conversation, charity, spirit, faith, and purity (1 Tim. 4:12)
52. Be a partaker of Christian sufferings (2 Tim. 1:8; cp. 1 Peter 4:1)
53. Be gentle to all people (2 Tim. 2:24)
54. Be apt to teach (2 Tim. 2:24)
55. Be instant in season, out of season (2 Tim. 4:2)
56. Be careful to maintain good works (Titus 3:8,14; cp. Matthew 5:16)
57. Be content with what you have (Hebrews 13:5)
58. Be doers of the Word (James 1:22)
59. Be afflicted and mourn (James 4:9)
60. Be patient till Christ comes (James 5:7-8)
61. Be holy in conversation (behavior) (1 Peter 1:15-16)
62. Be pitiful (1 Peter 3:8)


The other 900 won't fit .

 

Some people use 1 Cor 16:1 as a proof text for both Sunday worship and church "tithing." As the two ideas in this passage are often connected, I just thought I'd point out that this passage proves neither.

 

But we can't deny Paul said, "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."

The Sabbath is the "last day of the week", and that is when the Jew gave at the Temple. Sunday is the day we attend church, and when we normally give, i.e. if we prosper.They tithed, and we don't. They gave and we give. They gave by command, and if we prosper we are to give what we will. I find His Word reveals their gospel is not our gospel.

 

All of these are not to we today. They are to us if we forget all about Damascus Road.

 

Thanks again.