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- Thread starter Cathode
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I am telling you that since you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God has raised Him from the dead, you are saved. You do not need to be a member of the Catholic Church nor do the sacraments within her to obtain salvation. You are being ripped off of your faith in Jesus Christ & you are being robbed of the joy of your salvation in Christ Jesus because God did not give grace so you can do works to obtain salvation as that is the opposite of grace.
If you deny Jesus words and then disobey them, you aren’t believing in Jesus at all.
“ Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. “
Sounds kinda important, Jesus isn’t being sarcastic at all, especially as he uses the “ trulys “ to make emphasis.
“ My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink “
You don’t believe Jesus flesh is real food and His blood is real drink. You deny this, claiming only symbolic food and symbolic drink.
“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day. “
Not believing that Jesus flesh is real food and blood is real drink, of cause you don’t eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood, you refuse.
First the denial then the disobedience.
“ So he who eats me, will live because of me “
Again, it sounds important to receive life from eating Jesus flesh.
If people really believe in Jesus, they would believe His words that His flesh is real food and blood is real drink, and they would eat His flesh and drink His blood to receive life as He said.
Hear Jesus words and believe in your heart, trust Jesus words beyond all your reasoning and understanding because He said it. This is believing in Jesus, this is Faith.
“Let us then in everything believe God, and gainsay/deny Him in nothing, though what is said seem to be contrary to our thoughts and senses, but let His word be of higher authority than both reasonings and sight. Thus let us do in the mysteries also, not looking at the things set before us, but keeping in mind His sayings. For His word cannot deceive, but our senses are easily beguiled. That hath never failed, but this in most things goeth wrong. Since then the word saith, ‘This is my body,’ let us both be persuaded and believe, and look at it with the eyes of the soul. For Christ hath given nothing sensible, but though in things sensible yet all to be perceived by the soul. So also in baptism, the gift is bestowed by a sensible thing, that is, by water; but that which is done is perceived by the soul, the birth, I mean, and the renewal. For if thou hadst been incorporeal, He would have delivered thee the incorporeal gifts bare; but because the soul hath been locked up in a body, He delivers thee the things that the mind perceives, in things sensible. How many now say, I would wish to see His form, the mark, His clothes, His shoes. Lo! Thou seest Him, Thou touchest Him, thou eatest Him. And thou indeed desirest to see His clothes, but He giveth Himself to thee not to see only, but also to touch and eat and receive within thee.” John Chrysostom, Gospel of Matthew, Homily 82 (A.D. 370).
Jesus tells you that His flesh is real food and blood real drink. Jesus tells you that you must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Believe it, stand on His Word and believe and obey.
Jesus, whose words stand Eternally, though heaven and earth pass away. Believe them because they are far higher than all man’s reasonings and sight.
Jesus words can never deceive.
“Let us then in everything believe God, and gainsay/deny Him in nothing, though what is said seem to be contrary to our thoughts and senses, but let His word be of higher authority than both reasonings and sight. Thus let us do in the mysteries also, not looking at the things set before us, but keeping in mind His sayings. For His word cannot deceive, but our senses are easily beguiled. That hath never failed, but this in most things goeth wrong. Since then the word saith, ‘This is my body,’ let us both be persuaded and believe, and look at it with the eyes of the soul. For Christ hath given nothing sensible, but though in things sensible yet all to be perceived by the soul. So also in baptism, the gift is bestowed by a sensible thing, that is, by water; but that which is done is perceived by the soul, the birth, I mean, and the renewal. For if thou hadst been incorporeal, He would have delivered thee the incorporeal gifts bare; but because the soul hath been locked up in a body, He delivers thee the things that the mind perceives, in things sensible. How many now say, I would wish to see His form, the mark, His clothes, His shoes. Lo! Thou seest Him, Thou touchest Him, thou eatest Him. And thou indeed desirest to see His clothes, but He giveth Himself to thee not to see only, but also to touch and eat and receive within thee.” John Chrysostom, Gospel of Matthew, Homily 82 (A.D. 370).
Jesus tells you that His flesh is real food and blood real drink. Jesus tells you that you must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Believe it, stand on His Word and believe and obey.
Jesus, whose words stand Eternally, though heaven and earth pass away. Believe them because they are far higher than all man’s reasonings and sight.
Jesus words can never deceive.
“Then having sanctified ourselves by these spiritual Hymns, we beseech the merciful God to send forth His Holy Spirit upon the gifts lying before Him; that He may make the Bread the Body of Christ, and the Wine the Blood of Christ; for whatsoever the Holy Ghost has touched, is surely sanctified and changed.” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, XXIII:7 (c. A.D. 350).
Just as Eve the first bride proceeded from the side of Adam after he was put into a deep sleep, the Church Christ’s bride proceeded from His side when after His sleep (death )on the Cross. Interesting the word “rib” translates as “side”.
The Church is flesh of Christ’s flesh similar to Eve being flesh of Adams flesh.
The Eucharist, The Flesh and Blood of Christ makes us the Church one flesh with Christ, as Covenant exchange of marriage between Christ and the Church.
“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in him “
“This is the cup of my Blood, the Blood of the new and everlasting covenant“
This is the wedding Covenant between Christ and His bride the Church.
“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day “.
Christ’s flesh and blood gives life to our flesh and blood to our bodily resurrection on the last day. Jesus flesh and blood contains the divine potency of eternal life, and by eating His flesh and drinking His blood, we receive eternal life and it gives life to our bodies at the Resurrection.
“Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
To attend this wedding feast, you must believe and have the garment of Faith, Faith in Jesus words.
“ You have the words of everlasting life “
By believing Jesus words that His flesh is real food and blood is real drink, and that you must eat His flesh and drink His blood unto resurrection and eternal life, you are wearing the wedding garment of Faith.
Then you can partake of the feast.
Just as Eve the first bride proceeded from the side of Adam after he was put into a deep sleep, the Church Christ’s bride proceeded from His side when after His sleep (death )on the Cross. Interesting the word “rib” translates as “side”.
The Church is flesh of Christ’s flesh similar to Eve being flesh of Adams flesh.
The Eucharist, The Flesh and Blood of Christ makes us the Church one flesh with Christ, as Covenant exchange of marriage between Christ and the Church.
“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in him “
“This is the cup of my Blood, the Blood of the new and everlasting covenant“
This is the wedding Covenant between Christ and His bride the Church.
“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day “.
Christ’s flesh and blood gives life to our flesh and blood to our bodily resurrection on the last day. Jesus flesh and blood contains the divine potency of eternal life, and by eating His flesh and drinking His blood, we receive eternal life and it gives life to our bodies at the Resurrection.
“Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
To attend this wedding feast, you must believe and have the garment of Faith, Faith in Jesus words.
“ You have the words of everlasting life “
By believing Jesus words that His flesh is real food and blood is real drink, and that you must eat His flesh and drink His blood unto resurrection and eternal life, you are wearing the wedding garment of Faith.
Then you can partake of the feast.