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robycop3 said:Maybe not, if he/she were Greek!
James_Newman said:All you do is explain to the small greek 8yr old that terrible is what kids used to say when they meant awesome. Then they can go home and tell mom what a terrible cook she is.
James_Newman said:All you do is explain to the small greek 8yr old that terrible is what kids used to say when they meant awesome. Then they can go home and tell mom what a terrible cook she is.
robycop3 said:There's a simple solution: TALK WITH AN 8-YR-OLD IN THE LANGUAGE HE/SHE UNDERSTANDS! I don't know of any who use Elizabethan English regularly, but LOTS who use OUR English all the time.
That's one of the reasons God has caused His word to be presented in OUR language, as well as allowed the outdated versions to still be available....and why no One-version-Only doctrines are true.
Rufus_1611 said:I hear and use bad English all the time. It doesn't mean I'm right and someone should create a Bible that makes sense according to my misuse of the English language.
av1611jim said:That was a poor choice of words Cranston. "Out dated"?
Since when is God's word outdated?
"Older versions" may have been a better choice.
And BTW: I happen to use Elisabethen english fairly regularly.
"Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved".
Rufus_1611 said:Does "awesome" describe the fear of the Lord the way "terrible" does? When Bill and Ted say "awesome", does this have the same contemporary meaning as "terrible" did for hundreds of years?
Rufus_1611 said:I don't disagree with what you're saying above. I would hope that if people didn't understand what I was saying they would stop and ask and I would do my best to communicate the message.
I turned to the 1828 for ease and it's a dictionary I mostly trust. However, the best way to define the term is to read the 55 verses where the word "terrible" is used in the Holy Bible.David Lamb said:Yes it does, for just as you turned to a dictionary for your definition of "terrible", the same can be done for "awesome".
1. impressive and frightening: so impressive or overwhelming as to inspire a strong feeling of admiration or fear
2. excellent: used as a general term of enthusiastic approval (U.S. slang)
They are the "excellent adventures" duo. It is the slang sense that they used the term. However, I submit that since most of Americans are addicted to television and movies, they get their meaning of the words more from there than the Bible. The majority of the time people are using the word is in the slang sense because their output (their speech) becomes consistent with their input (contemporary amusements).I imagine it is in the slang sense that Bill and Ted (are they the ones who had "excellent adventures"?) used the word.
I have no issue with that, for that is a fair definition of the word.As for the "hundreds of years" you mentioned, I looked up "terrible" in an etymological dictionary, which said that the word was used in the sense of "very bad, awful" in 1596.
David Lamb said:That sounds to me rather like writing "bar" in mistake for "bear", and expecting my spell checker to point out the mistake.It won't, because it doesn't recognise it as a mistake. Similarly, if you said, "God is terrible" to someone who applies the usual contemprary meaning to that word, why should that person even think that he has not understood you? If you know that the word could be misunderstood, why not explain it?
robycop3 said:Why not go backta the very roots of English, before Wm. The Conqueror & his Normans began to pollute it, when John 3:16 read thus: “God lufode middan-eard swa, dat he seade his an-cennedan sunu, dat nan ne forweorde de on hine gely ac habbe dat ece lif."
How DARE those KJVO Modernists tryta pawn off a bible version on us that changes that best-known verse in the entire Bible!
Rufus_1611 said:The Holy Bible says that God is terrible, I believe it and I will not hesitate to read any passage of the Holy Bible exactly as it is written.
Rufus_1611 said:We live in an age where the definition of the word "is" is debated and misunderstood. Do we need to do another Bible rewrite to use the contemporary use of "is" (whatever that may be)? I often spend time asking people "What do you mean by that?" This is the expression I use when someone says things like "Our troops are fighting for our freedoms in Iraq." Well, the way individuals are using "freedom" today is far different from how our founders used it so I desire to hear it defined (though it is rare that I get a solid' definition). Again, I am glad to explain any word that I type or utter to anyone that asks. It is an important aspect of proper communication to ensure that one understands what the other is saying. However, I will not change the words of the Holy Bible in order to maybe use a word that people might understand better. The Holy Bible says that God is terrible, I believe it and I will not hesitate to read any passage of the Holy Bible exactly as it is written.