That's interesting. Please supply some verses to show what you stated.
With the current conversation, I don't have time to gather all those passages, but I'll state (in crash course) what every well read Christian should be familiar with and anyone call look them up.
The heavenly hosts, all of them, were created. Nothing was created that Jehovah/Jesus didn't create. Man was the only creation that Jehovah "breathed into the breath of life, and man "became" a living soul." His breath, and in God's image is the reason we are triune. Nothing else is, including the heavenly host (of which the angels are a part). "Angels" were seen in both the Old and New Testaments. They appeared as men, having a physicality even in this world even though we know it to be different than our own. They were also seen with Jehovah and appeared as he did. We can safely assume they were patterned after Jehovah in his creation of them. The "sons of God" (direct creation of)(angels) left heaven and mated with the daughters of men, (Some don't believe this but that is what the scripture says.) and produced offspring. More than once, probably several times. (Not having a spirit, only a physicality, [spiritual body] and life [a soul], they have no "spirit" to pass on to an offspring. That's why the offspring can't be resurrected after death. They have no spirit to return to the body.)
Isaiah 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
However also webdog has given a scripture that seems to suggest that Christ in being head of the church is also husband of the church with no distinction between church and bride.
Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Of Course. Everything stated is accurate. Your just not looking at the whole passage.
Ephesians 5:22-27
22 Wives,
submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For
the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ
is the head of the church: and he is
the saviour of the body.
The husband is head of the wife as Christ is head of the Church (the whole Church, every member of it) and he is the savior of the body. (the whole Church is saved)
24 Therefore as the church is
subject unto Christ,
so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
"subject", in authority under,
to be submissive to. It says nothing of her "being" submissive. In fact, she has to be
told to submit, it doesn't come natural. We are all inherently disobedient, even after salvation.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Us gents have to be told to love our wives, even as Christ loved the Church, (and gave himself for it. Absolutely.) God/Jesus shouldn’t have to tell us to love our wives, isn’t that why we married them. But again, man (mankind) is inherently disobedient (and a rascal, to put it mildly) by nature.
26 That he
"might" sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he
"might" present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing;
but that it "should" be holy and without blemish.
"Might", not will or shall sanctify and cleanse it.
"Might", not will or shall present it to himself.
But that it "should" be holy and without blemish.
There are no absolutes used in the description of Jesus'
receiving of the entire Church.
Unfortunately, not all of the Church is without spot or wrinkle, or any such thing. Some, much, or even (I believe from my observation and study) most of the Church has defiled itself with the things of this world.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore
come out from among them, and
be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing;
and I will receive you,
I thought we were already “received” by the Lord. We’re saved, we have the Spirit living in us, we’re part of the church which is the body of Christ. Is there no consequences for NOT following the directives of the BrideGroom.
EXAMPLE
1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath
done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present,
concerning him that hath so done this deed,
(Willful disobedience through the sin of sexual lust, yealding to the temptations of the flesh… the penalty?)
4
In the name of our Lord
Jesus Christ,
when ye are
gathered together,
and my spirit,
with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
(A picture of the Rapture.)
5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
The guilty party will be handed over to Satan by being left behind at the time of the Rapture, and will be killed by the powers that be at the hand of the anti-christ during the great tribulation, so that his spirit may be saved inside the Day of The Lord.
Or is there another time in history when this event can be placed.
