Featured Particular, That Is Reformed Baptists

So is it really just a question of Reformed by descent (from the Reformers) or adoption (of Reformed theology)?

 

Hello Reformed...it was Walter Chantry in Carlisle...Tom's dad...also Albert Martin in Trinity baptist that were teaming up with Geoff Thomas,and others at family conferences that became a unit for several years of growth

I am okay with any of the labels...Reformed Baptist as a label helps to identify those who actually believe the ten commandments are also not optional.
Some like TC avoid the labels as much as possible because you have to spend half the day fighting off the attacks on Calvin,and the Reformers. I understand that.
When that happens you face the charge that you are avoiding the labels so those who do not grasp the teaching yet, are set to attack no matter what.

 

The "truly reformed" will explain it like this...think of the game of chess and the pieces involved in the chess game, King, Queen, two bishops, two knights ,two rooks, 8 pawns.....
if you remove the bishops or queen you are no longer really playing chess[not speaking of the endgame, but the start of the match]
So to them infant baptism , and their view of covenant children are essential to the theological game

Everyone understands or should see the differences because of this...RB believe that the reformers did much that was helpful, but missed believers baptism, and a right view of the covenants.....as far as writings...they came first with their 1644 Cof.

 

True. But that doesn't mean Jesus is a Calvinist!

 

Jesus was the first Calvinist. Check out what He says in John! (If you need some Scriptures, let me know).

 

First Calvinist? Cause Satan first teaches once saved always saved, in genesis saying "you surely will not die".

And Adam blames God for the woman he gave him.

 

my reply to utilyan's post above:

Before time began, God in His infinite Wisdom and Omniscience, provided for Adam's lost race.
According to His Foreknowledge, he Predestined His elect to eternal glory. Christ's Atonement is sufficient for all but efficacious only for some (the elect). Try reading Ephesians 1 and 2 and Romans 8.

 

LOL I can use those same verses to show you that he was not a Calvinist.

 

Well the bible does teach on the security of the believer

 

Tell that to the Catholic

 

One of my sons met his wife at Aberystwyth University.

 

Agreed. In the same boat myself.

 

Show me your scriptures, then I'll show you mine!!

 

Tony, just as an FYI, Albert Martin disliked the term, ‘Reformed Baptist.’

 

The Baptists completed the Reformation by disposing of the last remnant of Romanism-- infant 'baptism.'
Not too far from where I live there is a Calvinistic Baptist Church, the origins of which date back to 1652.
Newhouse Baptist Church – Newhouse Independent Baptist Church, Smeatharpe, Devon – Evangelical …
It would originally have called itself 'Strict and Particular,' but the minister, John Woollam would certainly call himself a Reformed Baptist.

 

The term "Strict and Particular" would not have been used in the 1600s.


History of the congregation from the Baptist Quarterly and Ivimey's History of the English Baptists:

 

Would just add that His foreknowledge is based upon Him causing/determining to bring the elect to salvation, and not due to Him seeing us accepting first!