Pastor Qualifications.

[rbell]

Hmm - You know a guy with the handle of antiaging??

Don't think it's him.

Antiaging rambled on and on more than this guy.

They both, however, are pretty nutty about the "zionist conspiracy..."

Now...if he starts talking about UFO's or the RCC controlling him through his TV set...then we have a winner...

 

[annsni]

Don't think it's him.

Antiaging rambled on and on more than this guy.

They both, however, are pretty nutty about the "zionist conspiracy..."

Now...if he starts talking about UFO's or the RCC controlling him through his TV set...then we have a winner...

Oh - I agree it's most likely not him but maybe a cousin?? Maybe they go to the same church? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[donnA]

Also, nothing like a good 'pigeonhole' characterization of Bible Schools, even if it is entirely unsupported.

Lets see, so far we cans ee the op doesn't like pastors, and he doesn't like bible schools.
And has changed the topic of this thread.

Nothing like a little 'flaming' rhetoric on which to enter the Baptist Board.

I beleive thats called trolling.

Now...if he starts talking about UFO's or the RCC controlling him through his TV set...then we have a winner...

I was wondering if he was wearing his foil hat to protect himself while he was posting this stuff.

 

[OldRegular]

My findings are John N Darby father of the Plymouth Brethren had a very rude temper that he never got rid and according to the Bible he was not qualified to be a Pastor.DR so-called C.I.Scofield never earned a DR`s degree in Theology and yet he applied the title to himself.C.I.Scofield`s Bible is in thousands of pulpits on Sunday after Sunday and as his theology.C.I.Scofield
deserted his wife and children with no financial support and yet he is qualified
in the eyes of millions to be their final authority.C.I.Scofield was used by some very evil men as they financed his reference bible and his theology was notcreated to teach the Bible but to create a hidden tyranny thats been happening since the 1800`s.Much of this information has been suppressed.

The publishing of his bible got the ball to rolling slowly now its full force.

After my research into the lives of these men I can no longer trust their theology.1800 Years of theology has been flushed down the toilet through the Scofield refrence Bible.A Dictinary of what the early Christians believed by David Bercott also helped me to make my decision along with what did the Reformers believe.Its almost unbelievable at how Scofield down graded the Church and has robbed the Church of its true Idenity.Two men has changed the direction of Christianity in less than 200 years and their theology was unknown for 1800 years.Scofield was payed a very handsome price and it is all heading toward a One World Government and Slavery for America.

Joseph Canfield`s book The Incredible Scofield and his book with copies of the facts was a start for me.Nevertheless Jesus Christ virgin born,crucified for my sins and resurrected is proof enough that eternal life is all that matters.Also the Rapture Plot by Dave McPherson shows the plagarization and the great cover-ups end time theologians teach through controlled media.

You know the Anti-Christ will rule from Jerusalem and the Zionist movement is helping them get there to take control of this World.The Anti-Christ has been here for centuries passing from one man to the next but the final one will be satan in human flesh and many ecumenical preachers are supporting him with everything they got.I would have thought this cant be 10 years ago but the evidence is out there.


God bless all.

Steven.

Steven,

Unfortunately you have committed the unpardonable sin on this forum, that is speaking ill of Darby and Scofield. I have Canfield's book so know some of what you are talking about. However, this Forum is dominated by dispensationalists so be prepared for a rough time.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

I enjoyed reading this thread. I like it in the same way I like listening to George Noorey or Art Belle. I think this would make a great movie and should be done. I would watch it! It would definately make tons of money on the order of Dan Brown's movies. But accuracy? I don't know about that. Sources would be nice to see referred to. I like the term a "leading researcher" with out mentioning who it is. It could be Willy Wonka or it could be William Foxwell Albright. I have no idea.

 

[pilgrim2009]

Steven,

Unfortunately you have committed the unpardonable sin on this forum, that is speaking ill of Darby and Scofield. I have Canfield's book so know some of what you are talking about. However, this Forum is dominated by dispensationalists so be prepared for a rough time.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrines of devils.Speaking lies in hypocrisy;having their conscience seared with a hot iorn,

{1st Tim 4:1-2}

I know brother.It was hard for me to accept to.I read William Cox`s ex-dispensationalist Analyzing Scofield and what the bible really says has been a real blessing to me.I am no longer confused and dont have to jump from one book and verse of the bible to understand it.Thank God for men with real concern about Gods people to expose these men and lead them into the way everlasting.Amen

Steven.

 

[Amy.G]

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrines of devils.Speaking lies in hypocrisy;having their conscience seared with a hot iorn,

{1st Tim 4:1-2}

I know brother.Will the real heretics please standup?

Steven.

No one here has "departed from the faith". We have differences of opinion, but are all of the same faith. Maybe you should do a study of what "departing from the faith" really means.

 

[pilgrim2009]

Don't think it's him.

Antiaging rambled on and on more than this guy.

They both, however, are pretty nutty about the "zionist conspiracy..."

Now...if he starts talking about UFO's or the RCC controlling him through his TV set...then we have a winner...

There plan is working good because they have convinced you its a conspiracy myth.Thats ok because you will find out unless God hinders them as He has done since this mess started less than 200 years ago.

Praise God.

Steven.

 

[Pastor Larry]

My findings are John N Darby father of the Plymouth Brethren...

Assuming all that is true about Darby and Scofield, none of that is relevant to the Bible. The question we must ask is "What does the Bible teach?" When we ask that question, we find that the ideas known as dispensationalism have strong biblical support, and have existed far longer than two hundred years. You are making a common mistake, thinking that because some person was bad, therefore what they believed or taught was bad. That is a grave argumentative mistake. A belief must be taken on its own merits.

 

[pilgrim2009]

No one here has "departed from the faith". We have differences of opinion, but are all of the same faith. Maybe you should do a study of what "departing from the faith" really means.

Dispensationalism is not the faith of 1800 years of Christianity.Just read some of the old reformers commentaries you will see.This doctrine was built during the same time as others were building Adventism-Campbellites-Christian Science etc.

God bless.

Steven.

 

[pilgrim2009]

Assuming all that is true about Darby and Scofield, none of that is relevant to the Bible. The question we must ask is "What does the Bible teach?" When we ask that question, we find that the ideas known as dispensationalism have strong biblical support, and have existed far longer than two hundred years. You are making a common mistake, thinking that because some person was bad, therefore what they believed or taught was bad. That is a grave argumentative mistake. A belief must be taken on its own merits.

I have to disagree agreeably.That would be saying that noone understood the Bible for 1800 years and this is secular reasoning.Dispensationalism has some severe problems without biblical support.

God bless you brother.

Steven.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Dispensationalism is not the faith of 1800 years of Christianity.Just read some of the old reformers commentaries you will see.This doctrine was built during the same time as others were building Adventism-Campbellites-Christian Science etc.

God bless.

Steven.

This I believe is true. But the rest of it? Jesuit spies leading all protestant seminaries by the nose. Sounds like a horrid fantasy from Jack Chick. BTW I enjoy reading his tracts too. Though some are good like this was your life but the others are just out there.

 

[Amy.G]

Dispensationalism is not the faith of 1800 years of Christianity.Just read some of the old reformers commentaries you will see.This doctrine was built during the same time as others were building Adventism-Campbellites-Christian Science etc.

God bless.

Steven.

Whether that's true or not, Dispensationalists are not heretics. There are many godly people that hold different views of the end times. Dispensationalists cannot be compared to SDA's or Christian Scientists.

 

[pilgrim2009]

Whether that's true or not, Dispensationalists are not heretics. There are many godly people that hold different views of the end times. Dispensationalists cannot be compared to SDA's or Christian Scientists.

Let me say I do not consider my brethren heretics just mis-lead I love them all and attend myself a dispensationalist church.My Pastor understands I have a different view but in love he has not dis-fellowshipped me because he even says he questions much of dispensationalism`s doctrines but that was the way his brain was educated.He says when someone dis-fellowships over minor doctrines that they are in reality not walking in the Spirit but the flesh and he has been preaching for 65 years.I praise God for his wisdom.

God bless in Jesus.

Steven.

 

[Amy.G]

Let me say I do not consider my brethren heretics just mis-lead I love them all and attend myself a dispensationalist church.My Pastor understands I have a different view but in love he has not dis-fellowshipped me because he even says he questions much of dispensationalism`s doctrines but that was the way his brain was educated.He says when someone dis-fellowships over minor doctrines that they are in reality not walking in the Spirit but the flesh and he has been preaching for 65 years.I praise God for his wisdom.

God bless in Jesus.

Steven.

That is good to hear, but what you stated earlier implied that you do think Disp.'ists are heretics.

Originally Posted by pilgrim2009
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrines of devils.Speaking lies in hypocrisy;having their conscience seared with a hot iorn,

{1st Tim 4:1-2}

I know brother.Will the real heretics please standup?

Steven.

This statement was made by you in response to OR's post:
Steven,

Unfortunately you have committed the unpardonable sin on this forum, that is speaking ill of Darby and Scofield. I have Canfield's book so know some of what you are talking about. However, this Forum is dominated by dispensationalists so be prepared for a rough time.

Sure sounded like you were saying Dispensationalists are heretics.

 

[pilgrim2009]

That is good to hear, but what you stated earlier implied that you do think Disp.'ists are heretics.



This statement was made by you in response to OR's post:
Steven,




Sure sounded like you were saying Dispensationalists are heretics.

I read a book that was titled that and did not mean it to sound like it was directed as dispensationalist.I apologize.


I have a dictionary of early Christian beliefs with-in the first 400 years of Christianity and they understood Daniel 9:27 to have been fulfilled in Christ not some future coming Ani-Christ.They spoke nothing of a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and they believed the Temple in Jerusalem was a history never to be repeated.The early Christians believed the early Jewish Church was the Spiritual Israel with the Gentiles grafted in.They believed the Temple of God in 2nd Thess chapter 2 was the Church of God where the man of sin would be one day {2nd Cor 6:16}To say Christians for 1800 years mis-understood the Bible is secular reasoning.

The doctrine started with a Jesuit in the 1530`s and came to Fruition in the 1900`s.The reformers from the 1500`s to the 1830`s held the same theology that the first 400 years of Christianity held.Yes there are those that has to have this rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and its not for biblical reasons.To not believe the Jesuits are involved is to stick ones head in the sand and just plain ignore the facts.

God in Jesus bless you.

Steven.

 

[Pastor Larry]

That would be saying that noone understood the Bible for 1800 years and this is secular reasoning.

No it wouldn't be like that at all.

Dispensationalism has some severe problems without biblical support.

I agree. But dispensationalism does have biblical support, and therefore has no severe problems. It has some issues that certainly need clarification and work, but all the options do. Covenantalism, the primary option to dispensationalism, is relatively new as a system as well.

When the text is actually worked on (as opposed to man made theories and ideas), dispensationalism stands just fine.

 

[pilgrim2009]

No it wouldn't be like that at all.

I agree. But dispensationalism does have biblical support, and therefore has no severe problems. It has some issues that certainly need clarification and work, but all the options do. Covenantalism, the primary option to dispensationalism, is relatively new as a system as well.

When the text is actually worked on (as opposed to man made theories and ideas), dispensationalism stands just fine.

Pastor have you ever read William Cox`s Analyzing Scofield?

A very well refutation of his system.


Another great source is the Nicene Councils DVD The Late Great Planet Church and Against Dispensationalism.Wow it will cause you to pack your bags and run from camp and its based on history and what saith God.

God bless in Jesus.

Steven.

 

[Pastor Larry]

Pastor have you ever read William Cox`s Analyzing Scofield?

A very well refutation of his system.


Another great source is the Nicene Councils DVD The Late Great Planet Church and Against Dispensationalism.Wow it will cause you to pack your bags and run from camp and its based on history and what saith God.

No, I tend to stay away from second class stuff. I have actually read the academic works in opposition to dispensationalism. They are well-researched and well-written. They are unconvincing. I don't follow Scofield or Lindsey.

Again, I don't really care if you are a dispensationalist or not. But it is wrong to pretend that dispensationalism has no biblical support. It does.

 

[annsni]

There plan is working good because they have convinced you its a conspiracy myth.Thats ok because you will find out unless God hinders them as He has done since this mess started less than 200 years ago.

Praise God.

Steven.

I see you do a lot of reading of man's ideas. But what is the better thing to do? Read, memorize and meditate on Scripture. When you know the truth so well, the lies will scream FALSE. But when you start looking to man for truth, well then, things get all messed up.