Path of this America

[KevinThrowe]

Honestly, I don’t understand that. Why should G-D have an ego so that He creates people to stroke it. That sounds like a human characteristic, not a divine one… so help me to understand the context.

I see G-D as a loving father,, one that recognizes human frail nature and constantly forgives.. to me, that’s an extremely loving thing to do.. so if I were to celebrate His character, then it would be for his loving nature that sees past my Myriad faults and truly loves me anyway… and Jesus is God on earth displaying that love… and further I believe it can be a matter of human perseption. Some view it as the gift of GRACE, some view it (Spinoza) as finding it in Nature and there are some that don’t have any belief and rely on their own efforts. Choose today who you follow. With the help of the HS, I put it in its proper context… so I can accept a G-D of nature & I can accept the G-D of love, both represent His glory as creator and arbitrator over all our lives.

This is why I found Dr. Clark’s explanation of g-d in the Rama series to be the most logical,

 

[Ben1445]

This is why I found Dr. Clark’s explanation of g-d in the Rama series to be the most logical,

I find God’s explanation of Himself to be the most accurate and the only logical place to get an explanation of God.

 

[Reynolds]

No. The Nazis did he

Honestly, I don’t understand that. Why should G-D have an ego so that He creates people to stroke it. That sounds like a human characteristic, not a divine one… so help me to understand the context.

I see G-D as a loving father,, one that recognizes human frail nature and constantly forgives.. to me, that’s an extremely loving thing to do.. so if I were to celebrate His character, then it would be for his loving nature that sees past my Myriad faults and truly loves me anyway… and Jesus is God on earth displaying that love… and further I believe it can be a matter of human perseption. Some view it as the gift of GRACE, some view it (Spinoza) as finding it in Nature and there are some that don’t have any belief and rely on their own efforts. Choose today who you follow. With the help of the HS, I put it in its proper context… so I can accept a G-D of nature & I can accept the G-D of love, both represent His glory as creator and arbitrator over all our lives.

Isaiah 43;7

 

[KevinThrowe]

I find God’s explanation of Himself to be the most accurate and the only logical place to get an explanation of God.

Thus you have not read the books.

 

[Conan]

This is why I found Dr. Clark’s explanation of g-d in the Rama series to be the most logical,

The Science Fiction Writer?

 

[KevinThrowe]

The Science Fiction Writer?

Doctor of astrophysics yes, these extremely intelligent people think about spirituality a lot.

 

[Reynolds]

Alas, that’s a disconnect between the nature of Man to the nature of G-D ( which is Devine). My true hope is the Kingdom is indeed in the hearts of the Christian & we will walk in Christs path and recognize that peace & harmony are within us).

War and violence is the nature of fallen man first evidenced by Cain & Abel, did not Christ come to eliminate that? Was He then a failure? Are we as Christians acknowledgment that we have missed the Christ teaching of loving the enemy?

Where in Scripture did Jesus say he would eliminate wars before His second coming? He in fact said there would be wars.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Where in Scripture did Jesus say he would eliminate wars before His second coming? He in fact said there would be wars.

Oh then that musta been Gandhi
Maybe Buddha.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Oh then that musta been Gandhi
Maybe Buddha.

Did he say that we are supposed to participate?

 

[canadyjd]

Did he say that we are supposed to participate?

No, He did not

Peace to you

 

[KevinThrowe]

Isaiah 43;7

Back to start . Were the souls of German’s sacrificed because Germany committed genocide?

 

[Ben1445]

Back to start . Were the souls of German’s sacrificed because Germany committed genocide?

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


You have somehow missed the fact that everyone has been condemned since Adam. Don’t overlook the facts. Apply the real standard to your question. The word already applies to WWII era anybody. There is another statement that explains who will not be condemned.


Since you keep asking, you must not be hearing the answer you want. What is it that you want to hear? (Not because I will say it for you. Just so that I know what you are getting at.)

 

[KevinThrowe]

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


You have somehow missed the fact that everyone has been condemned since Adam. Don’t overlook the facts. Apply the real standard to your question. The word already applies to WWII era anybody. There is another statement that explains who will not be condemned.


Since you keep asking, you must not be hearing the answer you want. What is it that you want to hear? (Not because I will say it for you. Just so that I know what you are getting at.)

Then why are there the Ten Commandments. ?

 

[Scarlett O.]

Then why are there the Ten Commandments. ?

They are there to teach us how sinful we are. The Ten Commandments don't save anyone. They aren't the way to heaven. Why? Because no one can keep them. The Bible is clear on that. James 2:10

So if we are saved by the grace of God and the death/resurrection of Christ alone, why are there 10 commandments?

They are there to expose our sin. To remind us that we CANNOT behave, CANNOT be perfect, CANNOT earn our way to heaven. We should try to be moral and try to obey them because it's the standard of God's holiness. But they are impossible to keep perfectly.

Read the story in Matthew 19 of the young man who came to Jesus and wanted to have "eternal life". He wanted to know what to "do". Jesus knew what was in his heart - a "to-do" list of behaviors to get him into heaven. He wanted to know how to EARN his way into heaven. So Jesus started with the 10 Commandments.

The young man claimed he had kept them all. That was a blanket lie. Ergo, he had NOT kept them. But he thought himself pure and Godly.

So Jesus goes into other behaviors. He begins with self-centeredness and asked the young man to go and sell all he has and to follow him.

The young man was too attached to his wealth in a greedy way and walked away from Jesus, saddened.

He found out he was not "good enough" to follow Christ. But he never learned that no one is!! Hence, the need for grace!!! We may sincerely desire to obey ALL TEN of the commandments, but it is sincerely impossible.

The purpose of the 10 Commandments is to expose our sinfulness and need for Christ.

 

[Mikoo]

I don’t think most Saudi’s, Japanese, Hindu’s, native Americans, Jews, Arabs, Blah blah blah blah are going down that road. So let’s let the other shoe drop, are they, the Christ non believers all going to hell?

What does God's Word say?

 

[Mikoo]

Too many read texts studying the Bible.
Too few read the Bible those texts claim to study.

Bingo! That seems to be KT's problem (one of them anyway).

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Back to start . Were the souls of German’s sacrificed because Germany committed genocide?

What do you know about soul salvation? The Nazi party in Germany committed many atrocities but if some were pure from start to finish, I don’t see how they would be held responsible … but please unpack your question a little more deliberately for me, like was not genocide targeted at certain ethnic races… what were the reasons? Obviously there was a prejudice but what else? And why would Herod initiate the murder of children and why would the Turks initiate mass murder of Arminians and so on… even my own Fathers Slovak families faced threats from Hungarians wanting to make them disappear. Personally I believe that there is an element of fear of others leading to targeted actions against another group. So what’s your thoughts?

What does God's Word say?

as interpreted by whom? Quote your scriptures discussing the topic and then I will research it thoroughly.

 

[Mikoo]

What do you know about soul salvation? The Nazi party in Germany committed many atrocities but if some were pure from start to finish, I don’t see how they would be held responsible … but please unpack your question a little more deliberately for me, like was not genocide targeted at certain ethnic races… what were the reasons? Obviously there was a prejudice but what else? And why would Herod initiate the murder of children and why would the Turks initiate mass murder of Arminians and so on… even my own Fathers Slovak families faced threats from Hungarians wanting to make them disappear. Personally I believe that there is an element of fear of others leading to targeted actions against another group. So what’s your thoughts?

as interpreted by whom?

Ah. You are one of those. Are you not a Christian?

Quote your scriptures discussing the topic and then I will research it thoroughly.

Now out come the demands? You asked the question. How about you research it in God's Word. What do you find in God's Word that may answer your question?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ah. You are one of those. Are you not a Christian?

Now out come the demands? You asked the question. How about you research it in God's Word. What do you find in God's Word that may answer your question?

Then why would I be asking, I’m not a Bible scholar… I’m a sinner who the HS said to come to Christ. But I’m a searcher for truth… so I plod on, dig deep in search for the truth. Apparently you don’t know yourself so you demand answers… why because your a Christian. Yes I am also…so what, like I said, I’m a believer but I’m not a Bible scholar. And I question everything… everything in my quest for truth.

So what’s your story, are you one of the elite know it all Bible thumpers who demands loyalty to a book? I’m not there with you… like I said, I’m a sinner in need of Christ. And I just lost my wife to cancer… I’m 40 years with this women, 15 or more desperately fighting this in the hope of having her remain alive & in my life… so where are all those prayers for help and were all those prayers for nothing? Did he not hear my prayers? They seem ineffective in retrospect! Maybe I’m venting but He has left me devistated and a emotional wreck. Will I pull it together… watch me. And I hope you don’t have to experience this ( grief) … so now I’m going to question and question and question. I will get off the floor and learn to deal with this hurt and be the wiser for it. What it’s taught me bottom line is to question everything… I’m now a zealot for truth. So yeah, I’m one of those guys and that’s how G-D made me… ever watch “Man Of La Mancha” that character speaks of Fight of Determination of Not Giving Up… the willingness to charge into hell for a heavenly cause. That’s me.Smile.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

They are there to teach us how sinful we are. The Ten Commandments don't save anyone. They aren't the way to heaven. Why? Because no one can keep them. The Bible is clear on that. James 2:10

So if we are saved by the grace of God and the death/resurrection of Christ alone, why are there 10 commandments?

They are there to expose our sin. To remind us that we CANNOT behave, CANNOT be perfect, CANNOT earn our way to heaven. We should try to be moral and try to obey them because it's the standard of God's holiness. But they are impossible to keep perfectly.

Read the story in Matthew 19 of the young man who came to Jesus and wanted to have "eternal life". He wanted to know what to "do". Jesus knew what was in his heart - a "to-do" list of behaviors to get him into heaven. He wanted to know how to EARN his way into heaven. So Jesus started with the 10 Commandments.

The young man claimed he had kept them all. That was a blanket lie. Ergo, he had NOT kept them. But he thought himself pure and Godly.

So Jesus goes into other behaviors. He begins with self-centeredness and asked the young man to go and sell all he has and to follow him.

The young man was too attached to his wealth in a greedy way and walked away from Jesus, saddened.

He found out he was not "good enough" to follow Christ. But he never learned that no one is!! Hence, the need for grace!!! We may sincerely desire to obey ALL TEN of the commandments, but it is sincerely impossible.

The purpose of the 10 Commandments is to expose our sinfulness and need for Christ.

You go girl! GRACE!!! Now sister, can you explain PROVIDENCE and it’s connection to grace?

I’m all ears, a captive audience