People questioning others character

Well I have seen enough of the muddy footprints of some of the private messages I have received in plenty of posts. So that just isnt 100% true is it?

Anyway, to the OP: chin up and be yourself. We love you anyway.

 

Now, Texas, why would I accuse you of slamming me? In the posts back a few weeks/months ago, patrick did indeed name me, if I recall correctly. And the private message to him was explained to him as just that, handled off the regular board, via PRIVATE message for just that reason...to be PRIVATE. This was clear to patrick.

You, as usual, do not have your facts straight concerning the first incident, which by the way, never wasn't any of your concern in the first place. And I never sent him a PM calling him a troll...I put it plain and simple in a thread warning others not to send him PM's unless they wanted them plastered all over the place or him whining, just as he's done here again. This time, because I believe in acknowledging or being responsible for what one has said, I posted plainly and clearly that I posted in another thread that patrick was a troll. He accused me of having hurt feelings. Not so. Broken trust...yes. To warn others of this possible danger with him, I had the right and the obligation. I have not in any way, shape or form slandered him. He has said he has apologized. I have not seen this if he has, as stated before. There again....you've read only part of the posts in this thread apparently. I stated clearly and concisely that if he had and I misunderstood his "apology" that I was sorry. Yet, you seem to go out of your way to defend patrick yet not acknowledge my side of this. So, again, you are as usual "one sided".

Please, TS, get your facts straight. It certainly would help. If you've got something to say to me personally, you can reach me IN PRIVATE (see...I even made that "PRIVATE" PUBLIC...just for YOUR benefit) at BrotherTony@isp.com. I will expect any correspondence with you and from you to be held in confidence...PERIOD! Otherwise, I will no longer respond to you in this thread.

Have a nice day.

T

 

Again, not so, TS. That is the content of this OP. He opened this post on the "what is your favorite country song". This is the post he's whining about, and that was just today (now yesterday). What he did say did BEFORE DID INDEED include my screen name and part of what was sent to him in a PM, and though I made clear I was joking with him on something, he got his feelings hurt. I apologized via PM and he posted it all over the boards in a whine, just as he's done with this, though this time he left my screen name out. It shows a great lack of character on patricks part, and a definite lack of etiquette and a great deal of immaturity, especially if he's in the ministry to be so whiney. Again, get your facts straight, or please refrain from speaking on subjects you know little of.

T

 

Again, taking one side without knowing all the facts...typical of you, TS.

 

And as I have acknowledged, in this case, it may be that patrick is just immature and isn't really a troll, just one who has his feelings easily hurt. I've apologized, and I will go no further than that. TS can try to "stir up" more trouble if she likes by taking one side without knowing all of the facts, but, I find this typical of her.

 

Now, James, don't get down. You're not THAT unpopular. I still correspond with you via the boards, and that is because though we disagree on some things, you at least use some common sense and can agree to disagree. Personally, I hate confrontation, but I won't back down from it if it is directed at me, as was this OP .

 

I don't know. I never came out and quoted any private messages. Besides...you never said "keep this private". Also...I've seen enough muddy footprints containing insults and outright mocking towards me from you. And THAT is 100% true isn't it?

 

A lot of these problems could be easily resolved IF everyone actually read and understoood what was written.

I am not isolating any one person with this statement.

Cheers,

Jim

 

You're right Jim. I can understand better and people can start to understand what I'm saying or ask for clarification before they attack me.

 

I don't know. I never came out and quoted any private messages. Besides...you never said "keep this private". Also...I've seen enough muddy footprints containing insults and outright mocking towards me from you. And THAT is 100% true isn't it? </font>[/QUOTE]Ooops, Brother King James.

The second unwritten rule of PM (private messages)
is that their very existance needs to
also be kept private.

The first unwritten rule of PMs is that
PMs are not to be revealed unless there is
a positive disucssion of the revelation
agreed to by both parties. There is no necessity
to say "I do not consent to revelation
of this PM on the BB (Baptist Board)"
Such a saying is understood.

If i were to write a PM (this is NOT saying
if i did or when i did or to whom {all
factors to be held in PRIVATE when using
private messages} ) on a touchy subject,
then i might remind the party about the
fact it is a PRIVATE message (PM).

 

To me folks, this really comes down to a whole lot of you saying that we need to help people hide private sin.

You folks are attacking the victim of the sin more than the sinner. You folks are saying that the sinner should get off scott free rather than risk the possibility that some very general objection to that sin reveal who the sinner is~ GASP.

Your attacks on Patrick make absolutely NO sense at all. If this was something you considered wrong (obviously calling Patrick a troll in private isn't wrong in your minds) - and Patrick had said, "How should you handle someone raping your wife?" Would you be telling Patrick "That was a private matter?"

SIN IS SIN people.

And I'll tell you, here, in public, if you are condoning a sinner's right to privately sin, and condemning a Christians' right to ask for Christian advice on how to handle that sin - you're as guilty as the sinner because you are helping the sinner AND endorsing their behavior by "protecting their right to carry on the sin in private."

No wonder the congregations that claim to be churches are in such bad shape today.

 

I don't know Patrick, but to me that sounds like a sincere, heartfelt apology and shows true repentance. Some folks need to get over it and move on.

 

AV1984,

Your continued reference to Patrick as "a troll", and your efforts to slander him on public boards by calling him "untrustworthy," is the most unChristian behavior I have seen on this board in a long time.

And I will gladly say that in public.

If you claim to represent Christ at least try to act like Christ.

Take a LONG look at Matthew 5:22 and know that I am rebuking you based on God's word.

But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

 

And where is AV1984's apology in all of this?

Has he EVER repented of attacking Patrick in private or in public?

He has EVER apologized?

His was the "first" sin in this mess people.

 

By The Way -

One of the definitions of verbal abuse is insulting people and then, when the person complains about the insult, telling them that they are "too sensitive" or "easily hurt."

 

Speaking of "Netiquette"

From a website teaching "Netiquette"

6. Don't write anything you wouldn't say in public. If you don't want to potentially share something you write, consider using the telephone.

9. Nasty comments should also be avoided. These messages have their own term: flame. Flame is an insulting message designed to cause pain, as when someone "gets burned."

 

When we were little kids, my sisters and I would always go tattling to my mom when we got in an argument or the other did something we thought was wrong. For a while this worked just fine--if you ran and tattled, the person who had started the argument or said something mean got punished.

Then after a while things changed. We were in grade school, and I guess my mom either got tired of us tattling or thought we were old enough to know better. Then if it was just an argument and no one was being really heinous, instead of getting our way when we tattled, she'd say, "Work it out yourselves." If we didn't and kept on bothering her, we'd all get sent to clean our rooms or do some other chore (same treatment when we complained of being bored--worked great! ).

I think this taught us to recognize when something was really important enough to disrupt the entire family over, when something could be worked out between us kids, and when something was petty enough to just let it drop.

Thank you, that is all.

 

Texas Sky...I think you need to go back through this thread and re-read my posts...I have apologized if I hurt patricks feelings. And I do indeed accept patricks apology.

Also, as stated for you benefit I will put it in 'bold typeface' so you can understand it....I DID NOT PM PATRICK AND CALL HIM A TROLL!!! Get your facts straight lady. So, again, where is your apology to me for unjustly accusing me, or are you to hypocritical and "outspoken" to admit your own mistake?