Pitfalls of the EV

[Salty]

You are certainly welcome to form your own opinion!

Those on the other side imply the BEV's have more fires or are a greater risk of fire. Using your criteria, those views are invalid as they must be based on evidence not sufficient to obtain a reasonable conclusion. However, if I say the risk is the same, actually based on available data which the other side ignores, why my view is to be disparaged.

Here is the point - If EV has 10% of all vehicles - and there is 2 fires of EV - that would be a 20% rate --- but when EV becomes 30% of all vehicles and there are 4 fires that would be about a 12% rate .

Thus having less then 10% is just not sufficient for statistical, info.
Thats why it is so important to know all the details....

For example - if someone took a pole and said that 51% think
Biden is doing a good job.

but then you find out that 90% of the respondents were Democrats....

Sure, less than 10% can give you a general Ideal -
but I would not bet the farm
on that small number.

 

[Van]

Did I say that old houses did not have fuse boxes? No. Did I say they upgraded my barns fuse box? No!
I can't prove a negative. Can you show me examples of houses that have a service drop of 115-125V? (Only a single leg coming into the base)
You might find 1 In a million houses.

If someone wants to charge an EV and they don't have panel capacity to handle it, they can get a service drop for a charging station in their yard.

Here is what I said: Many modern homes are wired for 240 volt outlets, such as a electric dryer. Plus many folks can charge their EV using an ordinary 120 outlet overnight for their daily driving of less than 30 miles.

 

[Van]

Here is the point - If EV has 10% of all vehicles - and there is 2 fires of EV - that would be a 20% rate --- but when EV becomes 30% of all vehicles and there are 4 fires that would be about a 12% rate .

Thus having less then 10% is just not sufficient for statistical, info.
Thats why it is so important to know all the details....

For example - if someone took a pole and said that 51% think
Biden is doing a good job.

but then you find out that 90% of the respondents were Democrats....

Sure, less than 10% can give you a general Ideal -
but I would not bet the farm
on that small number.

How many BEV's are on the road, 10 or 30? Nope,

'Even though there have been problems with the supply chain, sales of electric cars are still going up. From January to May of 2022, nearly 3 million fully electric cars were sold around the world, compared to 1.7 million during the same time frame in 2021. (An increase of more than 80%). Analysts think that the market should reach 7 million cars sold this year. This is because sales tend to be strong in the last few months of the year' (from on line source)

Thus an analysis of the fire rate for more than 200,000 cars might be considered valid by those who have studied statistical analysis.

 

[Van]

Here is a link to one study that might be bias, I do not know.
Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs

 

[Reynolds]

Here is what I said: Many modern homes are wired for 240 volt outlets, such as a electric dryer. Plus many folks can charge their EV using an ordinary 120 outlet overnight for their daily driving of less than 30 miles.

So , I take it you couldn't find any examples of houses that did not have 240. (I have metered it out at as low as 208 and as high as 252, but everyone calls it 240)

 

[Van]

So , I take it you couldn't find any examples of houses that did not have 240. (I have metered it out at as low as 208 and as high as 252, but everyone calls it 240)

I take it you have no idea when residential supply changed from 208 to 240?

 

[Reynolds]

I take it you have no idea when residential supply changed from 208 to 240?

The only place I have run into 208V is when it was pulled from 2 legs of a 3 phase Wye.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

Thanks for presenting truth Sir.

It is also true that car battery fires in EV do not occur any more frequently that gas powered vehicle fires.

I agree that it doesn't happen more frequently. Unfortunately when it does happen, it's horrible.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

But I bet the power Company drop is 240v.

Yes, correct it's 240 at the pole. Then they drop it down on the line into the house.

 

[Van]

The only place I have run into 208V is when it was pulled from 2 legs of a 3 phase Wye.

Non-answer.

 

[Reynolds]

Non-answer.

I don't really care when the switch was made. Don't know and don't give a rats rear. I am just telling you the only time I still see 208.

 

[Van]

I don't really care when the switch was made. Don't know and don't give a rats rear. I am just telling you the only time I still see 208.

Perfectly honest response. Think when receptacles started coming with a ground connection.

My point is that many homes built before the 1960's were 208.

Here is what I said: Many modern homes are wired for 240 volt outlets, such as a electric dryer. Plus many folks can charge their EV using an ordinary 120 outlet overnight for their daily driving of less than 30 miles.

This statement remains valid and there is no need to disparage it.

 

[Judith]

The current EV is a loser. Overpriced, too short a range, and too long to charge.