"plead the blood"

[Walpole]

Where are indulgences taught in scripture so a person can buy their dead relatives out of purgatory?

Where are offering babies as a sacrifice to Baal taught in the Scripture so a person can buy their dead relatives out of hell?

Erecting a straw man is so much fun. I see why you do it repeatedly here! I’ll try to think up some more and we’ll see who can come up with the most outlandish one.

 

[Particular]

Where are offering babies as a sacrifice to Baal taught in the Scripture so a person can buy their dead relatives out of hell?

Erecting a straw man is so much fun. I see why you do it repeatedly here! I’ll try to think up some more and we’ll see who can come up with the most outlandish one.

You never answered my question...and it isn't a strawman.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches indulgences as a means of freeing the dead from purgatory when there is no biblical support. It is heresy from the church you consider the group that gets to determine what is heretical or not.

So, please answer my question.

 

[ntchristian]

Are you refusing the challenge?

Define "real NT Christians".

 

[Walpole]

You never answered my question...and it isn't a strawman.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches indulgences as a means of freeing the dead from purgatory when there is no biblical support. It is heresy from the church you consider the group that gets to determine what is heretical or not.

So, please answer my question.

You never answered my question...

The Baptist church teaches you can offer sacrifices of babies to Baal to free the dead from hell when there is no biblical support. It is heresy from the church you consider the group that gets to determine what is heretical or not.

So, please answer my question.


(Aren't these so much fun???!!!)

 

[Walpole]

That is where I depart from you, friend, as I am a new convert to the Baptist principle of liberty of conscience. There is no such body, as you propose, that is free of doctrinal error, nor should there be any such body with authority to force its beliefs on anyone. That has been tried in the past with disastrous results. It is also contrary to the teachings of Jesus.

Then there is no knowing exactly what is or is not the Christian faith. For if there is no authoritative body, organ or mechanism to declare authoritatively what is or is not the faith, then the Christian religion is completely subjective and becomes whatever one decides for himself what it is or is not.

 

[Particular]

You never answered my question...

The Baptist church teaches you can offer sacrifices of babies to Baal to free the dead from hell when there is no biblical support. It is heresy from the church you consider the group that gets to determine what is heretical or not.

So, please answer my question.


(Aren't these so much fun???!!!)

Well, you tell a lie about Baptist churches, I speak truth about the Roman Church.
The Roman Church, to this day, teaches indulgences. There is ZERO scripture to support it. In Martin Luther's day, Rome taught that paying indulgences would get the soul out of purgatory quicker. Now, the Bible doesn't teach purgatory and it doesn't teach methods to get out...yet, the Church at Rome (the Mother Church) taught this as though it came from God.
So, you obviously are playing a game of avoidance and distraction because the church you think of as God's spokesperson on earth is filled with heresy that you cannot defend.

 

[Particular]

Then there is no knowing exactly what is or is not the Christian faith. For if there is no authoritative body, organ or mechanism to declare authoritatively what is or is not the faith, then the Christian religion is completely subjective and becomes whatever one decides for himself what it is or is not.

Our King is the authority. He is the head of the Body. He gives us (his children) all we need for life in his word. Since Rome is so terribly wicked, God brought his children out from under its bondage and directed them to understand unmerited grace through reformation. That wicked church at Rome rejected reformation and has continued in its path away from the King.

 

[Walpole]

Well, you tell a lie about Baptist churches, I speak truth about the Roman Church.
The Roman Church, to this day, teaches indulgences. There is ZERO scripture to support it. In Martin Luther's day, Rome taught that paying indulgences would get the soul out of purgatory quicker. Now, the Bible doesn't teach purgatory and it doesn't teach methods to get out...yet, the Church at Rome (the Mother Church) taught this as though it came from God.
So, you obviously are playing a game of avoidance and distraction because the church you think of as God's spokesperson on earth is filled with heresy that you cannot defend.

Well you tell a lie about the Catholic Church, I speak truth about the Baptist church. The Baptist church, to this day, teaches that you can sacrifice babies to Baal to get the soul of out hell quicker. Now, the Bible doesn't teach sacrificing babies to Baal and it doesn't teach methods to get out of hell...yet, the Baptist church (the Mother Church) taught this as though it came from God. So, you obviously are playing a game of avoidance and distraction because the church you think of as God's spokesperson on earth is filled with heresy that you cannot defend.

Isn't this so much fun??? Let's see how outlandish we can get this straw man!

 

[Walpole]

Our King is the authority. He is the head of the Body. He gives us (his children) all we need for life in his word. Since Rome is so terribly wicked, God brought his children out from under its bondage and directed them to understand unmerited grace through reformation. That wicked church at Rome rejected reformation and has continued in its path away from the King.

Non-sequitur (agumentum ad passiones), no content.


---> If God did in fact bring his children out of bondage via the Reformation, why aren't all Protestants Lutherans?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Define "real NT Christians".

No. If you don’t know what one is I can’t help you.

I will tell you the teachings of Jesus do not mean a thing without his death and resurrection.

 

[Particular]

Well you tell a lie about the Catholic Church, I speak truth about the Baptist church. The Baptist church, to this day, teaches that you can sacrifice babies to Baal to get the soul of out hell quicker. Now, the Bible doesn't teach sacrificing babies to Baal and it doesn't teach methods to get out of hell...yet, the Baptist church (the Mother Church) taught this as though it came from God. So, you obviously are playing a game of avoidance and distraction because the church you think of as God's spokesperson on earth is filled with heresy that you cannot defend.

Isn't this so much fun??? Let's see how outlandish we can get this straw man!

It is historically documented in my case. In your case, you pull it out of your imagination. Thus, you show your contempt at being proven wrong.

 

[Particular]

Non-sequitur (agumentum ad passiones), no content.


---> If God did in fact bring his children out of bondage via the Reformation, why aren't all Protestants Lutherans?

Because God does not tie himself to the State as Rome, the EOC and Lutherans have done.
You cannot seem to realize that the Kingdom is not tied to a denomination.

 

[Walpole]

It is historically documented in my case. In your case, you pull it out of your imagination. Thus, you show your contempt at being proven wrong.

It is historically documented in my case. In your case, you pull it out of your imagination. Thus, you show your contempt at being proven wrong.

This is so much fun...let's see how long we can keep these straw men going!

 

[Walpole]

Because God does not tie himself to the State as Rome, the EOC and Lutherans have done.
You cannot seem to realize that the Kingdom is not tied to a denomination.

Another non-sequitur. (Does not answer my question.)

---> If God did in fact bring his children out of bondage via the Reformation, why aren't all Protestants Lutherans?

Follow up: ---> Who then delivered the Calvinist from the bondage of Lutheranism? Who then delivered the anabaptist from the Calvinist and Lutheran? And who delivered the Methodist from the Anglican, etc. etc.?

The answer to these questions affirms my previous assertion that without a body, organ or mechanism to authoritatively declare what is or is not the faith, Christianity becomes a religion of subjectivity. Hence the result is the continual division and creation of new sects, all with competing and contradictory doctrines. For example, by the end of the 16th century alone, there were nearly 300 different Protestant sects already formed.

 

[Particular]

It is historically documented in my case. In your case, you pull it out of your imagination. Thus, you show your contempt at being proven wrong.

This is so much fun...let's see how long we can keep these straw men going!

You keep having fun. It is apparent to all what you are doing. Go run back to your holy roman see.

 

[Particular]

Another non-sequitur. (Does not answer my question.)

---> If God did in fact bring his children out of bondage via the Reformation, why aren't all Protestants Lutherans?

Follow up: ---> Who then delivered the Calvinist from the bondage of Lutheranism? Who then delivered the anabaptist from the Calvinist and Lutheran? And who delivered the Methodist from the Anglican, etc. etc.?

The answer to these questions affirms my previous assertion that without a body, organ or mechanism to authoritatively declare what is or is not the faith, Christianity becomes a religion of subjectivity. Hence the result is the continual division and creation of new sects, all with competing and contradictory doctrines. For example, by the end of the 16th century alone, there were nearly 300 different Protestant sects already formed.

You seem to reject the biblical truth that Jesus is the body and head of the church. You seem to replace Jesus with a denomination, in your case, Roman Catholic denomination. Your narrow-minded understanding is evident to all.

 

[Walpole]

You keep having fun. It is apparent to all what you are doing. Go run back to your holy roman see.

Yes, I am having lots of fun with your straw man. They are really entertaining and you have a good imagination!

 

[Particular]

Yes, I am having lots of fun with your straw man. They are really entertaining and you have a good imagination!

You seem to have no clue what a straw man is, which makes your response here even more apparent to others.

 

[Walpole]

You seem to reject the biblical truth that Jesus is the body and head of the church. You seem to replace Jesus with a denomination, in your case, Roman Catholic denomination. Your narrow-minded understanding is evident to all.

And right on cue here's another one! I'll play along again...

You seem to reject the biblical truth that Jesus is the body and head of the church and instead have Baal in his place. You seem to replace Jesus with a denomination, in your case, the Baptist denotation. Your narrow-minded understanding is evident to all.

Straw man are really so much fun. You can really attack anything when you build these!

 

[Walpole]

You seem to have no clue what a straw man is, which makes your response here even more apparent to others.

You seem to have no clue that you have built enough straw men that even the big bad wolf wouldn't be able to blow them down.