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SovereignGrace

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He is working through conviction but not regeneration.
Huh? Whaaaa? Srsly? You're joshing, hopefully. The dead in transgressions and sins(Ephesians 2:1) ppl don't grieve over their sins.

That is the sticking point in this, regeneration, what is regeneration in your definition?
Being born anew, from above, a new heart and new Spirit. Ezekiel 11:19, Ezekiel 36:26, John 3:3, John 3:8, John 1:13, Romans 9:16, John 6:30...just for starters.

Most say it is rebirth, being born again. Now if a person is reborn before faith then we have a scriptural problem.
No problem whatsoever. Not everyone has faith as 2 Thessalonians 3:2 plainly states it. Not all men have faith. This is in regards to saving faith.
John 3:
"15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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HAS eternal life. Already possessed. Those who believe already HAS eternal life.


that life came that is the rebirth comes by believing,
Bzzzzzzz!!!! Wrong!!! Life is what causes belief, not belief causes new life. Tell me, what belief did those jumbled up bones in Ezekiel 37 have, the widow's son in Luke 7, the 12 y/o girl when Jesus said "Talitha cubic", Lazarus in John 11...what faith did these ppl possess?

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revmwc

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If God is drawing them, then it's a sealed deal.

The one who called you is faithful, and he will do it.[1 Thessalonians 5:24]
So then Aggripa must have believed? Acts 26:28 under conviction he was almost persuaded but according to this he never truly believed, yet the Holy Spirit was drawing and Agrippa was on the verge of believing but he fell short. But you say if drawn they cannot resist yet Agrippa from his own mouth resisted.
 

SovereignGrace

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So then Aggripa must have believed? Acts 26:28 under conviction he was almost persuaded but according to this he never truly believed, yet the Holy Spirit was drawing and Agrippa was on the verge of believing but he fell short. But you say if drawn they cannot resist yet Agrippa from his own mouth resisted.
Here's the thing, ppl do believe, but not from the heart. I believed in God my whole life, but wasn't saved until I was 36. In reality, all I was doing was acknowledging Him as God.

King Agrippa knew, as Brother TCassidy already posted to you, King Agrippa's history. Belief isn't evidenced by a one time event, but by a life-long process, life-long belief. Those who truly believe, do so all the way up to their death.
 
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