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Please Provide Input on Revelation 12:4

Yeshua1

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We see the dragon has 7 heads & 10 crowns, same as the beast of Rev. 17. This shows that beast/empire will be controlled by Satan, who will indwell the antichrist, that empire's human ruler. But Satan won't be cast into hell with him immediately; he will be removed from the antichrist & cast into "the abyss" til the millenium's over.
Yes, as Satan will not be bound until after Second Coming!
 

timtofly

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No, there'll be 2 physical, actual men, Homo Sapiens, same as we are, with Satan indwelling the "man of sin", & empowering the FP to do certain miracles wsuch as summoning lightning & causing a statue to speak.

Satan is not the demon of some reprobate human. Only demons can indwell a person. Satan is not a spirit. Only God is Spirit. The sons of God are in the full image of God and the spirit part of the image turns the body into a sun. See the mount of Transfiguration for an example. So, no! Satan does not take over a human body. Satan is the beast that looks human with lamb's horns and uses his normal voice.

There'll be the eschatological events before He returns. And Jesus said the sign of the Son of man would appear in the sky. He didn't say what that sign will be, but it'll likely be unmistakable for anything else.

Jesus said the sign was Himself appearing in the sign.

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

"this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
 

robycop3

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Satan is not the demon of some reprobate human. Only demons can indwell a person. Satan is not a spirit. Only God is Spirit. The sons of God are in the full image of God and the spirit part of the image turns the body into a sun. See the mount of Transfiguration for an example. So, no! Satan does not take over a human body. Satan is the beast that looks human with lamb's horns and uses his normal voice.



Jesus said the sign was Himself appearing in the sign.

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

"this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
Satan is the most-powerful of all created beings, & he can certainly indwell a human if/when God permits it. Demons are much less-powerful than Satan, & if s demon can indwell a person, their boss certainly can! But the only human he will be permitted to indwell is the antichrist/beast, but he will empower the false prophet in his boss' presence.

And a "sign" is not the object itself ! A street sign is not itself the street. We don't know what the sign of Jesus will be, but it'll be unmistakable, & He Himself will very shortly appear afterwards.
 

timtofly

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Satan is the most-powerful of all created beings, & he can certainly indwell a human if/when God permits it. Demons are much less-powerful than Satan, & if s demon can indwell a person, their boss certainly can! But the only human he will be permitted to indwell is the antichrist/beast, but he will empower the false prophet in his boss' presence.

And a "sign" is not the object itself ! A street sign is not itself the street. We don't know what the sign of Jesus will be, but it'll be unmistakable, & He Himself will very shortly appear afterwards.
The angels said what that sign will be. Satan is not the most powerful being created. Satan is an angel with OCD, and overthinks things way too much.
 
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