Please respond to this verse!

[Frogman]

Why don't they 'like' being 'accused' of 'IDOLATRY'? Why??? do you call it 'imagery' if it is IDOLATRY?

And you call me confusing to the sheep.

Tell me why brother so that I won't be confused. Explain to me why such would not like being called idolators, would you?

Bro. Dallas

 

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by Frogman:
Why don't they 'like' being 'accused' of 'IDOLATRY'? Why??? do you call it 'imagery' if it is IDOLATRY?

And you call me confusing to the sheep.

Tell me why brother so that I won't be confused. Explain to me why such would not like being called idolators, would you?

Bro. Dallas

The catholics call it imagery as a rationalization of their sin of idolatry. They pray to images of Mary, Images of Jesus, Images of the Apostles, etc. They even mention them by name praying to them to intercede with God on their behalf.

Jesus told us how to pray, and his instruction does not include the names of his mother or his friends. He never said to bow before images of any of them either.

The Catholics say they don't but their statuary says different.

 

[Frogman]

I agree with you. But they do not appreciate being called idolators because of the sinfulness of it; so should we cater to their wishes? Or should we declare the Word of God and let it be as He has written?

Bro. Dallas

 

[BobRyan]

HOW OFTEN I WANTED to gather your children.. BUT YOU Would Not!

Oh what gyrations the Calvinist is forced into as he attempts to avoid the obvious, direct, force of this text.

it should be shown that Christ would have savingly converted persons, and they would not be converted; and that he bestowed the same grace upon them, he does bestow on others, who are converted:

What paultry squirming to avoid the obvious force of the text.

And yet that is all that is left for our Calvinist bretheren in Matt 23.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Felix]

HOW OFTEN I WANTED to gather your children.. BUT YOU Would Not![/b]

Oh what gyrations the Calvinist is forced into as he attempts to avoid the obvious, direct, force of this text.

I would like to humbly as I can attempt to exegete VERY briefly this text. First our Lord targets: Jerusalem, Jerusalem by which He addresses the leaders of that city. The reformed interpretation of this verse states that Jerusalem Jerusalem stands for the leaders (pharisees, etc.) for it was to them that the Lord sent the prophets first! It was also the leaders who killed those prophets.

Second, distinction should be made between 'gather your children' and 'you were not willing'. The Lord clearly is talking about two different groups. He wanted to gather the children (people of Jerusalem) but the pharisees (YOU...) were not willing to let them go. Please see also Mat 23:13 referring to the same issue.

Truth never dies...
Respectfully yours

Pardi