Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Nov 4

[just-want-peace]

No, it doesn't.

The truth doesn't depend on where you stand...

You can choose (either through naivete or willful ignorance of the facts) to reject truth. But the truth is that GWB did not steal the election...and there has not been ONE documented case of racially based or otherwise voter intimidation from 2000 or 2004.

So stand wherever you like, but the truth is independent of your perspective.

'Zactly!! Had there been even ONE case of R wrongdoing, the press and the Ds (but I repeat myself) would have been on it like ugly on a toad; but never happened.

What's more, all the SC did in 2000 was to tell the Ds that they COULD NOT selectively choose the counties they wanted to re-count. The SC was OK with re-counts, BUT, BUT, BUT, they had to re-count ALL COUNTIES.

That's when Gore decided to call it quits!!!!

Now you tell me who was TRYING to steal the election????

 

[LeBuick]

I'd like to see some documented cases, if you please.

You mean like Rodney King or do you want me to show you more recent examples just from our city. We had a young man who was shot for having a diabetic problem. Cops said he appeared to be on PCP or some other drug that MIGHT make him violent. Would they have come to that same conclusion if the person was white? I doubt it.

Criminals should be intimidated by a law enforcement representative. No matter what color they are. That's the nature of being a criminal.

Not if they have paid for their crime and not while they are exercising their right to vote. Why have the cops there if no violence is taking place? Why not use them to chase down crimes in progress or to resolve open cases?

 

[LeBuick]

'Zactly!! Had there been even ONE case of R wrongdoing, the press and the Ds (but I repeat myself) would have been on it like ugly on a toad; but never happened.

So you agree a hanging chad doesn't show the voters clear intent? The box is clearly punched but the little scrap of paper hung to the ballot so we discard that vote? And we only scrutinize ballots to this extent in Democratic areas?

If you can live with that then fine, you go for it. :thumbs:

 

[just-want-peace]

So you agree a hanging chad doesn't show the voters clear intent? The box is clearly punched but the little scrap of paper hung to the ballot so we discard that vote? And we only scrutinize ballots to this extent in Democratic areas?

If you can live with that then fine, you go for it. :thumbs:

I keep telling myself that it's futile to talk common sense to liberals when they don't like the facts; but then I realize that there are probably hundreds of lurkers that never post, and I hope that maybe, just maybe, they will see the delusions of the left as they try to create a silk tie from a sow's ear.:BangHead:

 

[LeBuick]

I keep telling myself that it's futile to talk common sense to liberals when they don't like the facts; but then I realize that there are probably hundreds of lurkers that never post, and I hope that maybe, just maybe, they will see the delusions of the left as they try to create a silk tie from a sow's ear.:BangHead:

Great commentary but here is the question you dodged...

So you agree a hanging chad doesn't show the voters clear intent? The box is clearly punched but the little scrap of paper hung to the ballot so we discard that vote? And we only scrutinize ballots to this extent in Democratic areas?

If you can live with that then fine, you go for it.

 

[rbell]

Great commentary but here is the question you dodged...

So you agree a hanging chad doesn't show the voters clear intent? The box is clearly punched but the little scrap of paper hung to the ballot so we discard that vote? And we only scrutinize ballots to this extent in Democratic areas?

If you can live with that then fine, you go for it.

um, I doubt you will listen or believe this, but the recount using Gore's metrics show Bush the winner.

Also...if one is too stupid to fill out a ballot correctly, then one is too stupid to vote.

 

[just-want-peace]

--um, I doubt you will listen or believe this,--

I would tell you that this is normal-- but you've been here long enough to know that!!

 

[LeBuick]

Also...if one is too stupid to fill out a ballot correctly, then one is too stupid to vote.

So now you attack the voter. They punched the hole but the chad clung to the ballot so you call them stupid.

Most of these were senior citizens... Sad...

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

Not true, you haven't seen how blacks view the police in the cities are especially in the south like NC. That is your neck of the woods and I would think you knew that or are you blind to the "guilty till proved innocent" treatment a lot of blacks receive.

Black folks ARE intimidated by police, especially those who have been on the wrong side of the law.

Well I will agree with you that PERHAPS SOME black criminals are intimidated by the police. But then they should be, so should white criminals.

No, Blacks here in NC or anywhere else are not guilty till proved innocent, it works the other way around. I have lived most of my life in NC, SC, and GA. I have lived in white minority communities and in areas where the politics and police were all run by black leaders. I have worked in the poorest housing projects of Atlanta, Savannah, and Columbia. Your being fed a liberal lie. Even in the poorest and blackest communities of Georgia and South Carolina it is only the criminal element that fears the police. The hard working, law abiding citizens welcome them and wish they saw more of them.

Let me ask you this LeBuick, if your argument were true, if people in our society were discriminated against by the police, well then you would never see a minority exceed the speed limit would you? They would all be extra careful that their tags and inspection stickers were up to date and their drivers license and insurance cards were correct. I mean if they are going to be pulled over and hassled by the police because of their race they would be sure to have every t crossed right? I mean you would not want to give the police any reason to oppress you further would you? Is that true where you live?

Law abiding people have no reason to fear the police, and they don't. Criminals have every reason to fear the police, and they should.

If you want to pull a Rodney King, if you want to run from or fight with the police, well then they are going to beat the crap out of you, I don't care what color you are. If your argument were true you would never see a minority argue with or fight with the police. I mean if they are going to beat you anyway you would not provoke them would you? Is that true where you live LeBuick?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You mean like Rodney King or do you want me to show you more recent examples just from our city.

Yup. The Rodney King card. A complete criminal dirt bag fights the cops, and 15 seconds of it gets on camera, and O.J. gets away with murder to make ammends. The whole episode is a disgusting reminder of how liberals like to make heros out of people who shouldn't even be allowed to walk the streets.

We had a young man who was shot for having a diabetic problem. Cops said he appeared to be on PCP or some other drug that MIGHT make him violent. Would they have come to that same conclusion if the person was white? I doubt it.

Yeah, cops NEVER beat on whites, or Asains, or Hispanics, or Indians, it's only blacks. I know. Blacks own a complete monopoly when it comes to police brutality.

Not if they have paid for their crime and not while they are exercising their right to vote. Why have the cops there if no violence is taking place? Why not use them to chase down crimes in progress or to resolve open cases?

Because people have allready demonstrated their willingness to break election laws, in a criminal enterprise. Credit card fraud (documented), strong arm thuggery (documented), silencing opponents (documented), and voter fraud (documented).....no telling what those spoiled brat leftist kiddies would try to pull if they weren't being watched.

 

[just-want-peace]

We're seeing the liberal mind at it's finest (?) here. I hope a lot of lurkers see the twisted logic spewing forth from the left.

If threads like this were published verbatim in the papers, or read verbatim on the news casts, with proper attributes given, this society (for the most part) would throw the liberals out on their ear pronto.

 

[Revmitchell]

So now you attack the voter. They punched the hole but the chad clung to the ballot so you call them stupid.

Most of these were senior citizens... Sad...

And yet another one who doesn't know what happened in Florida. the claims by the left went way beyond hanging chads. They were looking for dimpled chads. The perforation wasn't even broken. They were in fact trying to create votes by insisting there were chads not broken and hanging but dimpled. The so called dimpled chads were the controversy not the hanging chads.

 

[LeBuick]

And yet another one who doesn't know what happened in Florida. the claims by the left went way beyond hanging chads. They were looking for dimpled chads. The perforation wasn't even broken. They were in fact trying to create votes by insisting there were chads not broken and hanging but dimpled. The so called dimpled chads were the controversy not the hanging chads.

True, but there were some hanging chad votes that were not counted. Right?

 

[LeBuick]

Let me ask you this LeBuick, if your argument were true, if people in our society were discriminated against by the police, well then you would never see a minority exceed the speed limit would you?

Again, what you see depends on where you're standing and who side you stand on. All of this makes good sense from your perspective but I believe there is a side who would disagree with you. The absolute truth is obviously somewhere in the middle of both sides.

 

[LeBuick]

I think it’s wise to have the extra safe guard out. I guarantee if Obama does not win there will be riots.

If Obama doesn't win I think Biden better watch his back. I am sure many liberals aren't happy with the gaff machine/gift that keeps giving...

 

[rbell]

And yet another one who doesn't know what happened in Florida. the claims by the left went way beyond hanging chads. They were looking for dimpled chads. The perforation wasn't even broken. They were in fact trying to create votes by insisting there were chads not broken and hanging but dimpled. The so called dimpled chads were the controversy not the hanging chads.

Dingdingding, we have a winner!

Tell 'im what he's won, Johnny!

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

Again, what you see depends on where you're standing and who side you stand on. All of this makes good sense from your perspective but I believe there is a side who would disagree with you. The absolute truth is obviously somewhere in the middle of both sides.

I will agree with you there brother

 

[Revmitchell]

True, but there were some hanging chad votes that were not counted. Right?

Nooooo. it is not true. I will say it again. the controversy was about dimpled chads.